The following hand was at the end, we were both still very deep, of a 9 man PLO8 SNG on pokerstars. My impression of the villian is tight/solid. He has generally been showing down the nuts during play. What do you think of my turn shove here? I put the villian on the nut low draw and did not have a good read on his other cards but was fairly certain he did not have a King. My thinking was that I had enough fold equity to make this play and get him off his hand. Was that an accurate assessment? Also it seems like neither flatting or folding here is a good option. Thanks in advance for your feedback.

PokerStars - Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - $75/150 Blinds - 2 Players
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tightwkfish (BTN): $7,740
razor447 (BB): $5,760

Pre-flop: Dealt to tightwkfish 3 4 J 9
tightwkfish raises to $300, razor447 raises to $450, tightwkfish calls $150

Flop: ($900) K 5 2 (2 Players)
razor447 bets $600, tightwkfish calls $600

Turn: ($2,100) Q (2 Players)
razor447 bets $1,050, tightwkfish raises to $5,250, razor447 calls $3,660 and is all-in, tightwkfish returns $540

River: ($11,520) 2 (2 Players)

razor447 Showed 4 A Q 4
tightwkfish Showed 3 4 J 9
razor447 wins $11,520 with HI: two pair, Queens and Deuces

i personally would just limp pre, unless hes super super tight and your stealin his bb all the time, also keep in mind if hes that tight then this is not a good board to give alot of action too..

as played you should flat the turn esp if you put him on a low draw heavy range..
it makes it easy for you to take it away on the river, and it stops you from getting it in with the worse high hand/worse draw

Thanks alot for your analysis. Looking back I'm not thrilled with the way I played the hand. The raise preflop was just a standard 2x position raise I like to do with all but my worst holdings to my best holdings when HU and deep. Its just a way to increase the size of pots my opponent plays out of position and to get him to define the strength of his hand (if he 3 bets). As for the turn I'm still conflicted (see below)

I can definitely see the benefits of this and thought of flat calling but it seemed like my hand derived alot of its value from its draws (after all I have J high). There are a couple of things that swayed me away from flatting:

1. He didn't feel like a player that would give up on a blank on the river. If this is the case I lose any equity I have if a blank comes
2. I lose any value from my draws if I hit a scoop (e.g. big diamond or ace) and he check folds

well this contradicts itself..either hes the type to fire the river no matter what , so you def dont lose value when you hit if his firing..or hes the type to give up when board pairs other blanks fall, in which you can bet him out ...

but this is the guessing game you play when your in there with 34j9, your never going to be super confident with your hand..

so game flow timing tells bet sizing all should come into your read of the situation..you were the one playing and are the best fit to make a decision of his holdings

Weak starting hand = limp (at best).
You can call the flop with your combo draw, of course.
Why do you raise the turn? What exactly are you representing? (since you have nothing whatsover.)
You'd be better off to pot everything you can if you really want to take this line with this hand (but I would have folded on the turn bet.)

meh disagree with above. on the button heads up its a playable hand, two wheel cards and suited high card, definitely enough of a hand, so you may as well try and nick his blind by raising.

obv you are calling the min 3 bet.

when he bets flop it's ok to call one because you have position. but when he bets turn its time to fold.

as a variation your play is ok, once in a blue moon. i don't agree that you are repping nothing as imo you can easily have KQ or some other 2 pair which is going to be strong on this turn a lot because no other hands are really made yet. but it's not a good board texture because most times he fires 2nd barrel he is either made or has a hand he can call off on a draw. paired boards with no low draw are better.

as a more macro consideration, blinds are 75/150, not really any point stacking off on a major bluff. but he doesn't know that.

The equity I'm talking about is my fold equity when he misses his low draw and check folds to my all in

At the time what I thought my hand represented was two pair or a set that wanted to see how the hand developed before risking all my chips. If you think about it a set doesn't have much that much equity against a wheel draw on the flop and I certainly would call behind when deep like this to disguise the strength of my hand and collect additional chips on the turn when a low card doesn't come and keep the pot small when a low card comes but it doesn't complete the wheel (meaning he is freerolling).

I don't like the all in raise on the turn, if it has to be a raise, a min raise would've been way better. I agree with LUCIUS, all in on the turn was way too early. Folding the turn should be considered play but I think calling is better. I know its a little spewy, but after picking up the backdoor flush and gut shot draw I think it deserves another call. The turn bet wasn't that big after all. You have bunch of outs, in position, disguised hand, implied odds, bluff on the river potential but careful with that as with this line you show a lot of weakness and board pairing usually they know it cant be that good for you.

Agree with everything up to the turn. I would just call though, because he is pretty much not folding anything (too much in the pot already). A semibluff is only good if there is a decent percent chance he will fold. If you whiff, well, you're sitll in the tournament

i dont think you did anything wrong.you showed strength throughout the hand.some people will get all over you about your starting hand but every hand cant be aa23 ds.he should have laid that one down.i think that was some strong poker on your part.keep up that intensity and you will be a big winner i think.

So ... at this point villain started with $5,760 and has put $2,100 into the pot, in a tournament. Personally I'd seriously doubt any competent players are putting almost 50% of their stack in and then folding on the turn (they either have a good enough made hand to call, or have a draw and can't fold).

If you call and he checks a non-low river, then you might be able to bluff him.

I guess fold is best, although that seems like one of our better turns. Meh.