I am a novice at this game hence the preflop questions at the end. Hands are recreated to the best of my recollection.

$350 buyin, tables are very loose and passive, all 9 handed.

1) utg raises, 4 callers, sb calls, I call in bb A874ds

flop J73r utg checks, utg+1 bets, three callers, I fold


2) tight co calls, sb calls, I check AKKQss

flop 962dd I bet, co calls, sb folds

turn Ah I check/fold


3) mp calls, co (a littly laggy postflop, bet/raises flop more than average) calls, I call AT75ds on button, sb completes, bb checks

flop T97hh, mp bets, co raises, I call, sb folds, bb folds, mp calls

turn 4h co bets, I fold


4) mp calls, co calls, I raise A322ss on button, sb folds, bb calls, mp calls, co calls

flop 443r, check to me I bet, bb all in for 1/8 BB, mp and co calls

turn A check to me I check

river Q mp bets, co folds, I fold


5) I raise QT42ss in sb, bb (cold called 4567ss in mp to utg raise, called a flop bet on J73, and raised on a turn 2) calls

flop KJJhh (I have a Q-high flush draw) I bet, bb raises, I call

turn 6d I check/call

river 9c (bb has ~2 BB left) I bet


6) utg limps, I raise A852ds utg+1, hj calls, co (kinda unpredictable preflop, plays high-only hands in ep and mp) 3-bets, sb calls, bb folds, utg folds, everyone else calls

flop 346dd sb checks, I bet (what if utg and/or bb has also called?)


7) 2 calls, I complete KQJ4ss in sb (~3.5BB behind)
8) sb completes, I raise AAT9 (~6.5BB behind)
9) utg limps (limped A369ss once), I call with AKT4
10) I limp AJ72ss utg
11) utg raises, I fold K432ds in utg+1 (what if utg limps?)

The only questions I see are, "what if utg and/or bb has also called?" and "what if utg limps?"

You have too many hands in this thread. It's overwhelming, at least to me. How about making one thread for each hand... or maybe one thread for two similar hands?

OK. And as I have quoted them, I made the suits looks like suits, for easier readability.

OK.

OK.

Meh. (shrug)


What seat are you occupying?

Why? You completely missed a fit with the flop. Do you think they'll all get out of your way after this flop? (I don't).

Meh.

Are you the button?

SB and BB evidently check/folded.

OK.


No comment.

Unless everyone else has folded and I'm going for a steal, I probably fold this starting hand from the small blind in a tournament.

bb (cold called 4567 in mp to utg raise, called a flop bet on J73, and raised on a turn 2) calls[/quote]bb calls? (Then I guess your attempt to steal, if that is what it was, failed - shrug).

Meh. (shrug).


Are you seated in middle position?

Looks right to me.

What if they called on betting round #1? Then what did they do on betting round #2?

I ran out of gas. (Too many hands). It's fun for me to respond and have a discussion until it feels like work. And then it's not fun for me anymore.

Buzz

Hi Buzz, thanks for taking the time to respond and edit my post. Sorry for the length and readability I will create individual threads for each or similar hand next time and include more thoughts/questions.

I'm guessing this means it's probably a mistake but not a big one? I was curious about the first hand with A874 on J73r since my hand is getting 18-1 and UTG probably isn't check raising (so more like 19-1). But I only have 2nd nut low draw and middle pair in a 7-way pot.

For the AKKQ hand I am in the bb.

I was betting the flop for value. It seemed close at the time since I have no low draw and CO likely does but I thought my kings are good here. I check/folded turn because I thought I was drawing to half the pot too often, also CO could have made aces up. But I'm wondering if bet/folding is better?

For the AT75ds hand, yes I am on the button. SB and BB indeed check/folds. Is it better to just fold flop? Turn seems close but I thought he had hearts too often.

I guess this means big mistake(s)? I have no clue if I should be raising that hand preflop with the dead deuce. Flop I c-bet with nut low draw. Turn I check since I'm likely drawing to half the pot only. River I thought I was beat too often to call.

For the QT42 with hearts hand, yes it was folded to me in the SB and I was trying to steal with a marginal hand. Flop/turn seems standard given what I know about him. River I'm wondering if I should c/r or c/c instead.

For the A852ds hand, I was next to act after UTG limped (so UTG+1). Is preflop standard? Also I bet out since I thought CO who 3-bet preflop might check the flop too often.

I was wondering if BB and/or UTG calling preflop makes a difference to my decision to either c/r or bet out on the flop.

I really appreciate your response. I know it's a lot (of nonsense).

You're welcome. OK.

To me, "meh" means "that's life." Opinions given on this forum differ greatly. Some would argue you should continue. Some would argue you should fold. I think it depends on your opponents and your table image.

That's the one where you have not much going for high and are primarily drawing for second nut low.

I generally advise against chasing with not much chance of winning high and drawing for the second nut low. That written, I might fold or I might continue. I think folding is fine... probably your best option.

OK.

You do have the overpair of kings. But for this flop I think you should rather have a diamond draw plus a low draw (A2**) or part of that. An over-pair works better for me in Texas hold 'em than in a fixed-limit Omaha-8 tournament. There will be many who probably play better than I do and who disagree with me... who think I'm advising too tight play.

I would fold to the flop bet. You have two pairs plus a low draw, but it's not a good two pairs, it's not the nut low draw, and it's for two small bets, not just one. But that's just me. I'm sure some think you should have raised.

No. It doesn't. "No comment" simply means I have no comment. It's kind of like "meh." You start out with a decent starting hand and catch a draw with the flop. So far, so good. But then the hand goes sour. You end up with no low on a low board plus aces and fours with a three kicker. Anyone else with an ace also has aces and fours for high and probably has you out-kicked.

Sometimes that happens.

Most poster here will probably think you should raise. I don't fault your raise. Would I raise myself? Depends.

That's what I'd do too.

I'd probably bet the turn. Checking would be a mistake for me. (It might not be for someone who plays differently, someone who has some plan I don't have).

Once you check the turn you should fully expect MP to come out swinging (bet) on the river. Is he betting because the river helps him, or is he betting because you checked and he thinks you'll fold if he bets? (Get it?... you can't tell).

I carefully choose opponents from whom to steal in tournaments. I want my steals to work. If I try to steal and it doesn't work, then I have misjudged my opponent. (That's how I think about steals in tournaments). In other words, in my opinion it's fine to steal - but the steal has to work - otherwise it's a mistake.

You have a Broadway straight draw after the flop, but the board is paired and there's a heart flush draw you don't have. I would not draw for a straight here, but some who post here would. I think you overplayed this hand.

A852ds is a very playable hand. It's flawed in that it lacks high card strength (with only one ace) and middle cards (the eight) are not usually good cards to have in a high/low game, but the suited ace and the A25 combination for low make the hand very playable. The preflop raise is OK. I might raise with it or I might not raise with it, depending on the effect I thought my action would have on my opponents.

I guess you mean you bet out the second betting round. Fine.

I think it depends on BB and/or UTG.

You're welcome. I don't think it's nonsense. It's just too much.

Buzz

1.) I think you have to peel getting 19(!):1, and pray for a 2 or 7.
2.) Pot is tiny, I actually think you can check/fold this flop.
3.) I would call the turn. You're obviously not getting odds just to draw to a boat, but the other players have given no indication through their actions that they are likely to have a better low draw.
4.) NH
5.) I would just complete the SB. Flop, turn are fine; river is whatever.
6.) NH
7.) Sure, what else would you do? (Maybe a fold right on the money bubble)
8.) I would probably raise if I had a suit, check if rainbow, but whatever.
9.) I don't know. Is this rainbow? What is your position?
10.) Good
11.) Definitely a fold to an UTG raise. Probably a fold for one bet in early position, though you could call one in late position.

Haha I see what you mean now. It seems tougher than usual to have a quality discussion with so many hands to analyze.

Yes, I was thinking maybe it might have been a fold because of my chip stack although it is a very playable hand from the SB and I'm getting 7-1. It was nowhere near the money bubble though.

Yes, it is rainbow. I am next to act after UTG limped so UTG+1. I would call AKT3 rainbow in the same position and in a similar table so I thought it wasn't too bad. In retrospect, I don't like it since there's a big difference between A3 and A4, and I would probably only call next time if it was double-suited or something.

Lots of good points made.

Exactly.

Welcome to the forum.

Buzz

1) peel. and you have at least one bdfd.
2) c/f flop 3ways
3) i fold flop, as played, call turn
4) nh
5) pre is borderline. seems fine.
6) do you have a fd? either way, donk bet is good
7) seems fine
8) opponent dependent (if i don't expect him to fold anything, i just check)
9) isoraise
10) how many players? i usually just raise this anyway.
11) nh

I assume for the high card value + thinning the field? Do you think it is better to raise with hands like AKQ3r/AJJ3ss and say limp stuff like A234r/A872ss (in a typical loose passive game with few preflop raises and lots of limping) in that spot?

I believe it was actually 8-handed at that time.

this is limit right? if its not, my answers will change


hand 1 is a clear call on the flop

hand 2, i will call 1 bet from CO if sb folds, otherwise i probably give up, its better when we have a backdoor flush draw

hand 3: it's tremendously important that you clarify whether you are suited to the ace when you are suited, Buzz seems to have suits in his post but I don't see them in the OP, i think this is a pretty tough spot and our stack size and overall position in the tourny are going to influence my decision; i think its closer to a fold than a call but depends on the overall agression of our opponents


hand 4: seems standard

hand 5: raising tends to be bad from a pure value perspective but can be ok for other reasons, play is normal after the flop

hand 6: we should consider putting in a 4th bet preflop, we have a nice hand for drawing multiway (assuming at least one flush draw is to the ace); after the flop we should look to shovel in the maximum amount of money, i would bet

hand 7: shrug, folding can also be ok here depending on everything that is going on in the tournament

hand 8: shrug again, i generally prefer a check, our aces are rarely going to be more than a small favorite, and frequently even behind, given our relatively small stack we probably don't benefit from bloating the pot

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600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
aat9:xx	53.50%	234,924	402,619	5,270	0	0
$L$L	46.50%	192,111	192,111	5,270	251,276	0

hand 9: we can raise here almost always, we need to have a compelling argument to consider not raising

hand 10: stacks matter, raising is also an option

hand 11: normal fold