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Is it a good idea to get it in with aces with no low? Is it a good idea to get it in with aces with no low?

08-23-2015 , 02:25 AM
oh ok, seen it in post #9 now. limp/fold and spare yourself from getting in this spot in the first place...especially for bovada as there will be plenty of better chances later, the tables are anon so reads are tough early on unless the guy has been jamming everything, and most tourneys there aren't rebuy. Much rather lose a few bb and try to get myself into a high % spot later on.

Even if he hadn't gotten re-raised, the BB can call with a pretty wide range and he's already got your hand narrowed down because you've represented strength already. While you on the other hand have very little info on what BB could have. Add in the fact that he's now first to act (assuming you weren't SB) and any small advantage you might have had pre isn't looking all that great anymore.

Last edited by lotuspod2; 08-23-2015 at 02:33 AM.
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08-23-2015 , 03:56 AM
limp fold AA? is this the razz forum ? lol
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08-23-2015 , 04:38 AM
lol fine, 1 more hint...I'll give it in simulation form.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
As Ah Jc 9s53.31% 367,973785,8874,07400
Ac 2c 7d kh46.69% 296,047296,0474,074578,4240

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
Ac 2c 7d kh55.03% 402,132520,1970368,6662,916
8h 7h 5d 6d 44.97% 293,159565,8110197,5302,916

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
As Ah Jc 9s42.05% 324,106588,95822500
8h 7h 5d 6d57.95% 496,825496,825225584,8900

Does this remind you of any other games?

Oh and all together now for a bit of a different scenario where SB/BB may hang around, most likely if it was only potted once pre.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
658,008 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
Ac 2c 7d kh34.01% 105,290119,3142,705259,728891
8h 7h 5d 6d 34.31% 125,473272,15913687,643891
As Ah Jc 9s31.68% 150,381263,6942,84100

Last edited by lotuspod2; 08-23-2015 at 05:08 AM.
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08-23-2015 , 05:02 AM
You really think you have point now?
i do not wanne get you out of fantasy land but going allin pre with 8765ds is not +ev. but in a non exicted senario where reality is not real you can be right.

NEXT hint please
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08-23-2015 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by omybike
You really think you have point now?
i do not wanne get you out of fantasy land but going allin pre with 8765ds is not +ev. but in a non exicted senario where reality is not real you can be right.

NEXT hint please
Who said 5678 has to reshove you all in? The most likely play would be to only call the extra 2.5BB from the big blind position and play from there.

You're right, I'm terribly -EV and a losing player living in a fantasy land

Last edited by lotuspod2; 08-23-2015 at 05:28 AM.
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08-23-2015 , 09:07 AM
i tought the topic was about getting it in with AA no lo.
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08-23-2015 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
Can't be a typo because of the separation of a and o on the keyboard. Must be that "aut" sounds like "out." OK... that makes sense to me. In school I was not good at foreign languages. I'm interested in how people think in terms of using words outside of their native language (in your case, I presume Dutch).

How does one holding AAJ9 outplay (or autplay, if you like) one's opponent? I think I can answer that.

Basically one outplays one's opponent by making better choices on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th betting rounds, after the flop, turn, and river.

I don't think outplaying one's opponent is hand specific. You simply make fewer mistakes than your opponent.

When you're last to act, you bet when you should bet, fold when you should fold, raise when you should raise, and call when you should call. And if your opponent acts first and does one or more of these incorrectly, then you have out-played your opponent.

When you're first to act, you bet when you should bet, check/fold when you should check/fold, check/raise when you should check/raise, and check/call when you should check/call. And if your opponent acts last and does one or more of these incorrectly, then you have out-played your opponent.

Did I omit any possibility? If so, it was an oversight.

How does one holding AAJ9 outplay one's opponent? By watching one's opponent make mistakes and not making mistakes oneself. That's the general idea, anyhow. I think it sounds easier than it actually is.

And if your opponent is a better player than you are, and is less likely to make a mistake on the 2nd, 3rd, and/or 4th betting round than you, ripping it in on the 1st betting round may be your best chance to win.

Buzz

sounds pretty clear cut and dried, if your opponent makes more mistakes post and on the turn getting it in early seems like your losing a ton of value and money.
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