Suitably drunk (ususally not at Saturdays): My morals prohibits me to hunt fish's ass, even I could. Because of that I will never be a bum hunter and a great winner.
Turn: ($22.10) 5 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets $11.50, Hero raises to $26.88, UTG calls $19.79 and is all-in, MP calls $22.17, CO calls $15.38
River: ($117.82) 7 (4 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $117.82 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 4 T 9 5 7
CO showed and won $62.62 ($30.64 net)
Hero showed K 5 8 T and lost (-$31.98 net)
UTG showed and won $24.82 (-$0.07 net)
MP showed and won $28.38 ($1.11 net)
Some of the longer standing members may recall a staking agreement I had with long term member sangaman gone wrong where I went outside the terms and did not return the money. Records exist in the archives where i confessed all. Thread called "please dont stake me". t has been 3 or 4 years since and I am pleased to announce sangaman was paid roughly 600 dollars by me over the last few months. I was and felt obliged to repay him and I was sorry for taking so long but I never forgot about it and when I recently acquired a steady income I felt it was the right time.
I want everyone to know I am trustworthy and keep to my end of the bargain. I most likely will not need staking as I have not been playing regularly if seldom at all. But if I ever do, this post is for that time.
Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 Q Q 9
UTG+2 calls 200, MP1 calls 200, MP2 calls 200, MP3 calls 200, CO folds, BTN calls 200, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: (1,400) T 4 J (7 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets 200, MP1 calls 200, MP2 raises to 2,200, 3 folds, Hero raises to 5,708 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP2 calls 3,508
Turn: (13,216) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: (13,216) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: 13,216 pot
Final Board: T 4 J 3 8
MP2 showed K A J 5 and won 13,216 (7,308 net)
MP1 mucked and lost (-400 net)
Hero showed 2 Q Q 9 and lost (-5,908 net)
MP3 mucked and lost (-200 net)
UTG+2 mucked and lost (-400 net)
SB mucked and lost (-200 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-200 net)
Was this a bad shove? I figured that, since there were 2 people minbetting, they were weak, and I was mostprobably ahead against someone raising on that flop, since I had an overpair, flushdraw/blockers and an OESD..
It didn't turn out great, but I believe I was ahead against most of villain's range, right?
It was a 50$ tournament btw, so not extremely fishy..
Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 Q Q 9
UTG+2 calls 200, MP1 calls 200, MP2 calls 200, MP3 calls 200, CO folds, BTN calls 200, SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: (1,400) T 4 J (7 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets 200, MP1 calls 200, MP2 raises to 2,200, 3 folds, Hero raises to 5,708 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP2 calls 3,508
Turn: (13,216) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: (13,216) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: 13,216 pot
Final Board: T 4 J 3 8
MP2 showed K A J 5 and won 13,216 (7,308 net)
MP1 mucked and lost (-400 net)
Hero showed 2 Q Q 9 and lost (-5,908 net)
MP3 mucked and lost (-200 net)
UTG+2 mucked and lost (-400 net)
SB mucked and lost (-200 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-200 net)
Was this a bad shove? I figured that, since there were 2 people minbetting, they were weak, and I was mostprobably ahead against someone raising on that flop, since I had an overpair, flushdraw/blockers and an OESD..
It didn't turn out great, but I believe I was ahead against most of villain's range, right?
It was a 50$ tournament btw, so not extremely fishy..
Not ahead, more likely you would be in coinflip situation, or a little bit behind.
Turn: ($22.10) 5 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets $11.50, Hero raises to $26.88, UTG calls $19.79 and is all-in, MP calls $22.17, CO calls $15.38
River: ($117.82) 7 (4 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $117.82 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 4 T 9 5 7
CO showed and won $62.62 ($30.64 net)
Hero showed K 5 8 T T and lost (-$31.98 net)
UTG showed and won $24.82 (-$0.07 net)
MP showed and won $28.38 ($1.11 net)
I (zeddspectrum) got it in vs 3 opponents, one each with nut low draw + nut flush draw (AdKd2cXX), two pair + nut low draw (A2294) and two pair plus gutter (T4J8X), so all in all I did have pretty much every card in the deck going against me lol.
Top set was 33 % or so vs 3 opponents on the turn.
Pre flop obviously sucks, but I think I played OK after that.
Last edited by Buzz; 02-06-2014 at 06:44 PM.
Reason: include T:diamond:
Preflop: Hero is SB with J 3 A A
UTG folds, MP calls $1, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, Hero raises to $8.50, BB folds, MP raises to $108.90 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $100.40
Flop: ($220.80) 3 K A (2 players, 1 is all-in) Turn: ($220.80) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($220.80) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $220.80 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 K A 2 T
Hero showed J 3 A A and lost (-$108.90 net)
MP showed 9 J Q J and won $218 ($109.10 net)
FYP. Why didn't you raise on the flop? You had the best hand, top set.
I figured I was up against big draws and I didn´t want to have $12 behind and be forced to call it off on a diamond turn
I also figured I had some fold equity on a blank turn, which is clearly incorrect against NFD+NLD. The guy with AdKd2x would have made a MASSIVE mistake by folding on the turn (43 % equity or so).
Then again, I´m not sure anybody would have folded on the flop (again, the guy with A2294 called it off on the turn and he had to know he was drawing to a low only) and my equity stayed the same (33 % or so both on the flop and on the turn)
I figured I was up against big draws and I didn´t want to have $12 behind and be forced to call it off on a diamond turn
I also figured I had some fold equity on a blank turn, which is clearly incorrect against NFD+NLD. The guy with AdKd2x would have made a MASSIVE mistake by folding on the turn (43 % equity or so).
Then again, I´m not sure anybody would have folded on the flop (again, the guy with A2294 called it off on the turn and he had to know he was drawing to a low only) and my equity stayed the same (33 % or so both on the flop and on the turn)
You could make it unprofitable for the others to continue, by potting the flop. For flush, straight and low hunters.
It's less than 20% probability a diamond comes on the turn if one player has 2, the board 2 and you 1, that's only 8 outs for villain. With two players drawing for the flush it's almost paradise , 6 outs max.
Board could pair, and you may get it all with a boat, if the set is not enough. Turn: 7 outs, river: 10 outs. If you are lucky, you have someone with a lower set.
I guess I may be stupid, but I actually really like the way I played the hand
Two guys put in 100bb basically dead on the turn and both of them might have found a fold on the flop with sufficient action
The only "problem" is the fact that I was up vs a guy with the mother of all draws, hence my "poor" equity. 33 % is kinda silly with top set and one card to come, but I guess I still made a lot of bb ((0,33*$120)-$27 = $13 or 50bb ... not too bad for giving a "free" card by just calling on the flop ...)
That´s part of my reasoning for just calling on the flop. Given stack sizes, I can´t raise all-in on the flop so all I can do is raise to a rather uncomfortable size and hate most turn cards. What´s more is that once I raise flop, action freezes on turn cards I love (i.e. board pairs).,
Given the way I played it, I can safely fold vs action on all sort of turn cards and get it in with massive deception vs minor hands. My best guess is that nobody on this table even thought that I might have top set, hence all those fist bump snap calls by three opponents, one of them being forced to call with his monster draws and two of them drawing dead/super slim for high.
Aaah that seems about right.. however. Turn is a fold, the shove is not extremely bad, also because of implied odds, but you have to hit the board in order to getthe full pot.. Flop call is good play there
With 5 card PLO8 this hand is a Fold preflop. Those cards barely work together and you will be up against much better draws most of the time when you have 5 cards to choose from!