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12-16-2014 , 11:57 AM
well it was looking like another week of no final tables in weeklies after yet another almost final table but missing out in GOTW and weekly horse and nlo8. Every time losing some ridic hand to some random or horrid reg and super frustrated.

So decided just to play the weekly 82 FLO8 and pretty much destroyed huge lucksacks ohraisydaisy and bedias 3 handed for a cheeky last ditch weekend saver.
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12-16-2014 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ILoveClOCKS
By not raising flop you risk the player shutting down if they had qt, tt or 33 and a bad turn hits for their hand.
Yes, this is the reason why you want to raise the top of your range. Good that you mentioned it, since I'm not sure if it was clear to everyone. Dunno why many people keep talking about balance btw, since that is not the reason to raise this hand.
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Yes, some good players can fold bare qt and 33 to a raise without a second thought here but have the $75s become so tough that you'd just assume this from an unknown? Vs all but the very best players I would never consider anything except raising here.
If good players can fold those hands to your raise without a second thought you are doing something wrong. Finally something that is related to balance. If you (not directed only towards the person I'm quoting) insist on being horribly unbalanced because "lol this is MTT", try to find some other way to tackle the problem. Self-deception seems to be a popular solution.
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I think we both know that answering this question in full would be a bad idea for me hence I am not sure why you asked it.
So how about answering it partially, so that I get even a glimpse of your thoughts? I am not expecting you to open up your playbook as then everyone reading this would start exploiting you.
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12-16-2014 , 03:58 PM
pretty sure it was you who was the only one talking about balance lol
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12-16-2014 , 04:17 PM
just ran the update and although I still have old client(hate the new one and will never change if possible) I have the new cashier and but w/e

The main thing is that they are showing the %'s in allins. Even in O8. Idiots like quantum will have a field day with this but it's really not very good that the fish know how bad they are and also make donks more way of close PF equities. The last thing I need is more donks wanted to flip PF :/

Last edited by billygstar; 12-16-2014 at 04:31 PM. Reason: i guess its kinda gimmicky and fun though ha
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12-16-2014 , 04:22 PM
they need to step up and ban HUD's. Ah I will be so happy when they do.
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12-17-2014 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
they need to step up and ban HUD's. Ah I will be so happy when they do.
Please.

Just learn to use it yourself.
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12-17-2014 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK
Please.

Just learn to use it yourself.
eh no pls u...its cheating

u learn to play without 1...
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12-17-2014 , 07:22 PM
If only Doyle, Sailor, Stu and Chip had known about HUDs back in the day maybe they'd have been half decent players. Maybe if they played me I could check out their flop X/F % and stood a chance....LMFAO.

Seriously, 'stek HUDs are crutches. Useful if you have a broken leg and are 2 stone overweight, no use when you are trying to run a marathon.
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12-17-2014 , 08:43 PM
Whats a HUD?
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12-17-2014 , 08:48 PM
No good winning player is reliant on a hud. No good winning player should play without a HUD. DUCY?


Anyone got russian ptr for the cap players?
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12-17-2014 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pandick
Whats a HUD?
heads up display (I think).

Buzz
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12-17-2014 , 08:55 PM
I think a hud CAN be usefull if You multitable ring games and You dont have the Time to analyse the opponents its ok to give You an indication of his profile but i dont really Like it to be honest
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12-17-2014 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
No good winning player is reliant on a hud. No good winning player should play without a HUD. DUCY?


Anyone got russian ptr for the cap players?
in nlhe I agree kinda

good job in weekly

I don't like the DUCY thing tbh but w/e

I stand what I say though..i wish they were banned..i know i'd fair better that's for sure whether it be holdem or omaha
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12-17-2014 , 10:12 PM
oh and how donzenc luksaks his way through these i'll never know
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12-17-2014 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
in nlhe I agree kinda

good job in weekly

I don't like the DUCY thing tbh but w/e

I stand what I say though..i wish they were banned..i know i'd fair better that's for sure whether it be holdem or omaha
Yeah its kinda douchey but I wanted to make the point properly. It wasn't meant to offend. Ty, messed up a pot with 8 left in a silly spot that I got myself into.

I use a hud when i multitable normally, but fairly regularly won't bother to load it as I have a general idea of how most regs play and hud stats can easily give false reads, especially as in tournaments people will be using different strategies to their basic gameplan and these hands are useless/ a negative.

I don't blame you for not supporting huds and in particular wanting them banned, especially if you think you are better off without them, but to call it cheating and to not use one because you dislike the principal is counter productive to winning at poker.
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12-17-2014 , 10:32 PM
I agree with that. But don't agree with what you said before that "No good winning player should play without a HUD".
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12-18-2014 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
Yeah its kinda douchey but I wanted to make the point properly. It wasn't meant to offend. Ty, messed up a pot with 8 left in a silly spot that I got myself into.

I use a hud when i multitable normally, but fairly regularly won't bother to load it as I have a general idea of how most regs play and hud stats can easily give false reads, especially as in tournaments people will be using different strategies to their basic gameplan and these hands are useless/ a negative.

I don't blame you for not supporting huds and in particular wanting them banned, especially if you think you are better off without them, but to call it cheating and to not use one because you dislike the principal is counter productive to winning at poker.
I was actually going to say something like I totally agree with u but I guess the DUCY thing rubbed in my tilt rage ha

As usual I agree with mostly what you say. I guess I am stubborn, to my own detriment.

In nhle I would have better results but not so sure in o8 and I don't play enough plo atm. But for sure I don't support them 1 bit and I hope they are banned at some point.

see what happens I guess.

Last edited by billygstar; 12-18-2014 at 12:32 AM. Reason: oh n obv i dont think its cheating :)
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12-18-2014 , 01:37 AM
Banning HUDs is not as easy or feasible as you may think. You can remove hand histories, or delay hand histories plus enforce anonymity, but it is not possible to prevent people from keeping stats for the current session. As a last resport screen-scraping could always be implemented.

Poker rooms could ban commercial HUDs but then you'd have a selected few who could make their own. Do you really want to uneven the playing field like this?
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12-18-2014 , 03:38 AM
I already play in an uneven playing field so couldn't really give a ****
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12-18-2014 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ILoveClOCKS
Do you really want to uneven the playing field like this?
Wut. That's basically the opposite.
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12-18-2014 , 03:41 AM
and yes I would way way way rather play with no HUD's allowed and maybe playin v some cheats..then every man and his dog having a HUD
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12-18-2014 , 08:46 AM
I guess I mean from the perspective of regs. From the perspective of recreational players it's probably a good thing to have some HUD free games.
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12-21-2014 , 12:41 AM
Is it a common thing for O8 on PokerStars when Supernova plays $1.5 hypers?


Last edited by burzum1; 12-21-2014 at 12:52 AM.
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12-21-2014 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by burzum1
Is it a common thing for O8 on PokerStars when Supernova plays $1.5 hypers?

Think you may have unwittingly answered your own question.

Supernova is not indicative of high stakes or in some cases even high skill (not in this case though - j is v competent). The overriding factor is high volume. If you are grinding Supernova you need games to run, and there probably weren't many going at higher stakes ar the time. Also J us just super competitive
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12-21-2014 , 06:45 AM
Busto...I spent too much on Christmas gifts
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