Stack sizes are irrelevant, I'm UTG+2 with A357

UTG Raises
Hero Re-Raise
UTG+5 Calls
UTG Calls

Flop: T34 (10.5 SB)
UTG Checks
Hero Bets
UTG+5 Calls
UTG Calls

Turn:Q (6.75 BB)
UTG Bets
Hero Folds

My logic was that my high is likely to be completely dead, poor reverse implied odds, I don't know what UTG+5 plans to do, and I can't be certain A5 would be good for the low should any non-2 come on the river.

Looks right to me.

When the third heart appears on the turn, considering the cards you can see, I think it's roughly 4:3 (something in that neighborhood) that none of your three opponents has a heart flush. In other words, considering the cards you can see, the probability one of three opponents has made a heart flush is about 3/7.

If UTG checked, you'd have a good bet (bluff) yourself. But UTG beat you to it!

That is, when you hold one heart, it's slightly unlikely any one of three opponents will have made a heart flush on the turn... but once UTG bets, it looks like UTG is the one who has made the heart flush. And if so, you can't win high and you're drawing for second nut low.

It turns out UTG made a nice bluff.

Remember that, but in this position, even if you knew UTG was prone to bluffing, with two players behind you yet to act, this is a fold.

Just my opinion.

Buzz

The bet from you on the flop makes his line a lot more believable on the turn---I would've folded also.

Since when players are donk betting like this at a full-ring $2/4 game? And three betting pre w/A357? Table change, please! This is not your typical, passive, calling station game.

I 3-betted preflop with A357. I decided to try and play more aggressive and isolate more preflop in position even though I don't have any high cards. Though this guy was opening kind of wide and it was kind of a wild game as people were 3-betting complete crap like naked queens preflop. I think this guy donked the turn with AK64 here.

Yeah you really don't want to be isolating with A357ss from utg+2 basically ever in a 9-handed game, but if you do a minimal amount of tenacity is required on later streets.

I am not as good as Buzz and can not understand your hand history

was there $21 in pot preflop and $27 post?

I would have called the $4 on turn and peeled one off
hoping the UTG+5 doesn't reraise
(although they should only do that with nut flush or squeeze me)

There'd be $21 going to the flop and $27 going to the turn. After he leads the turn there's $31 and I have to call $4, so I'm getting 7.75-1, but I have one player to act behind me, and some dicey decisions on the river. I think I have to fold if an Ace hits the river, I really don't want to re-raise hoping to isolate at a chance for half with top+bottom and a 75 low. I think if a 5 hits it's a clear fold so I need and 2, 6, 7, 8 for good a chance at half, but then if my low isn't good I might have to pay off 2 more bets on the river. I just see really crappy reverse implied odds with this hand. To be honest if I raise the turn I don't think I'm ever getting A2 to fold behind me.

I think it's close, but I don't think it plays poorly heads up. I'm guessing you would want me to have another broadway rather than the 7 to 3-bet so I could flop a high pair and open up broadway potential rather than just potential on the low side right? The way I saw it was that the hand kind of spans all the low cards with all 4 cards kind of working together so basically any 2 low cards gives me lots of draws and redraws. I was a slight underdog in equity to the AK64ds he opened raised with. If I got heads up I'd c-bet 100% of flops. If it came KQJ I could safely bet/fold. I'm kind of trying to train myself for the higher limits rather than just nut peddle so I'm trying to be more aggressive with wider ranges. In the higher limits would the good players be cold-calling raises with my hand from a UTG raise or is it more 3-bet/fold like hold'em is?

It doesn't play remarkably poorly heads-up. It's just that your position is way too early and in most games your 3-bet will create a 3/4-way pot from something that could have been a 4/5-way pot.

Your hand plays very well in multiway pots with coordinated low cards and a suited ace. A lot of your scoops are good to against any number of opponents.

Closest thing from limit hold'em would be middle pairs in (very) loose full ring games where it makes sense to have a cold-calling range. Against an early loose raise if you hold 88 your 3 bet is likely get you in to a 4-way pot where at best you're against so many over cards that you're basically set mining and fishing for a handful of 7-high flops. Since all the flops you hit are massive over kill you kinda prefer more customers.

In LO8 hands run closer, people call more and it's just rarer for everybody to miss the flop than it is in LHE so it makes sense to have a CC-range.

Oh and when you're in a similar position the hands you should add to your 3-bet range against loose opens are your "standard" 3-bet range where you drop the high card requirements by a pip or two/same high card requirements but slightly weaker low card requirements. Though you can't take too many liberties with your 3-bets since there's 7 opponents that could wake up with a hand.

Isolating in a split pot game with a one way hand not usually a great idea.

no, it's just that he's isolating such an early open with a one-way hand in which he's likely dominated. i would just call in this case.

This is a perfect hand to take a multiway flop imo,you have a Nut FD,several low cards that can scoop or quarter ppl,and on the other hand you lack high card strength,it is very possible that one or multiple opponents will call behind you so youll have sucky position.
I think its just one of those hands you gotta flat(and only raise if somebody limped or youre the first in the pot).

Post flop,i guess a flop bet is fine but what you do on the turn is player dependent imo,although folding in this spot can never be too bad as youre essentially drawing to half(at best) most of the time..

I have no history of opponents and whether they are tight and only push nuts,loose aggressive, somewhere in between.

You have given up with possible flush on turn. Ace on river gives you AA33 which gets beat by flush, straight, trips, higher aces up. Two on river gives wheel, 6 on river gives straight. With extra money in pot from pre-flop, I have a tendency to try to get to show-down cheap, especially if I am still drawing to scoop. If the 2 other players left at turn have shown any history of raise/re-raise to cap, then I would fold. If they are most likely going to check/call to showdown, I am going to try to get there.

Tight is right, unless everyone at table plays that way.

it's bovada so raises and bets are pretty much any four cards at any time. You're thinking way too much in this game as A5 is most likely the nuts for a low if it hits. preflop raise just adds to the gambling even if it's probably the best hand.

despite this, 2-4 limit with the rake and crapshoot nature of the game probably isn't worth the time but whatever.

think you probably have to call turn odds wise unless you know he's a nit.

Indeed. He should think A2 or Ax are a big part of your range, and obviously bluffing into either one is bad.

That's what I wondered. I'd like to know details of what was shown down. (I have a leak that I forget to remember all four cards in each opponent's hand at showdown.) Given that he should have no draws that want to semibluff the turn (except maybe a terribly slowplayed set, which you said wasn't the case here), I conclude he just leads out of turn at random with junk. Make a note of it.

Sounds like a game that would be very profitable based on your description. Good grief, what rake are they taking to make this only marginally profitable? 10% to $5 or something?

How long did it take you to get to that level on bovada ?

Obviously this guy doesn't play at Bovada. I love how people automatically assume games on Bovada are soft. That's not the case.

Yes once in a while there will be a spew monkey here and there but games are tighter than when Stars and FullTilt were legal in the States.

Another note, I have played over 500,000 hands on Stars and Tilt but never lost to a straight flush. I have played less than 100,000 hands on Bovada. I've lost twice with straight flushes and once with a 4 of a kind... I wish this were to happen at Commerce.