I have been playing lots of HU omaha 8 lately and frankly have no idea on how I should change up my game. Many people are super aggro and I have a hard time adjusting. I am unsure how I should open up my hand range and switch up starting hands. Many of the people that I play are pretty much clueless, but I play bit too nitty. I still use position to my advantage, but still need some improvement.

Have you tried searching threads in the forum? I think there are periodic threads about HU play, whether it's specific hand histories or general requests for information.

Best thing to do when making any general request for information about the game is to search first, as usually the topic has been discussed in prior threads that are at least in part responsive and helpful.

Should you not be consulting with your mastermind group rather than making all these pointless threads?

I think questions like these are relevant. I'm currently reading Collin Moshman's book about sng, NL holdem! Where are the resources? Even thought about buying the heads-up book. What do you do, without the O8 litterature?

Rule # 1. Get drunk

#2 defend the bb. If the player is bad or passive. Defend lots. If he's OK or good. Defend slightly less...

#3. Adjust

# 4. Timing. Pick your battles. Switch sizing

#5. 3 bet wide for value. Super wide if they fold. Broadway something suited is worth a 3 ball if they might fold.

In mtts. Pre raise size is super important.

Don't 3 bet stuff that you'll be annoyed if they call pre. Odds are they will

Learn to check back hands to tarp if theyll bet air. Bottom pair could be a better bluff catcher than worth turning into a bluff.

Dynamics are super important. Someone that just lost a flip or 10 might be steamibg

I think good players are doing something lime 85 % + on the button in pl and flo8

Nah I like pissing off people like you.

Anyways this forum is virtually dead... sorry for trying to bring up discussions here...

By far, the best thing you can do to learn head up is to PLAY head up. Play a ton. Pay for your education. Challenge good players. Find out what they are doing to you.

Position is huge just like any poker game. Pot control is key. The most profitable thing you will learn is how to promote your own hands and making it difficult for him to promote his.

nah it didn't piss me off I was just trolling.

Yeah the forum is pretty dead. Probably a few reasons why most of the knowledgeable players have stopped posting any kind of strat. One reason immediately springs to mind though.

Some players want the games to stay at a lower level so they can keep crushing. They actually hinder their ability to get better at the game because they don't want anyone to know how to play. If top NLH/ PLO pro's wanted to crush this game, trust me they could learn quickly. This well will dry up. Getting weaker players to play better will improve your own game.

Agreed, the forum is pretty much dead. Everyone knows what's happening.

Have any links?

Mods naturally encourage discussions.

Here is one, regarding hypers: omaha-8/quick-question-heads-up-hyper-sngs-1434955/. Think it's necessary to at least define if it's HU limit, pl or nl. Probably also if it's cash game or tournament.

Edit: at Stars tournaments have all the limits, cash games only FL, the latter apparently having just some regs waiting, games look more or less dead. The fixed limit tournaments don't look better, one pl going, practically all the action appears to be at the nl hypers.

Found a good way to search. "Search this Forum", then "Keywords", "Advanced Search", "Search titles only", then the words "Heads up" or "HU".

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/se...rchid=41165922

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/se...rchid=41165976

Oops, my nice search results disappeared. Sry.

Prynnraiding on deucescracked teaches the fundamentals of hu nlhe. Abd I think it carries over. Pokersnowie might also be great if you can do some calculations to translate or round out equity

Those links don't work for me.

Personally I have very bad luck using the 2+2 internal search engine for anything but poster names.

Google works better for me.

You might try searching Google for "heads up pot limit Omaha-8" (without the quotes).

I get lots of references for articles about heads-up pot-limit Omaha-8 when I do that.

But the trouble is, when you search the internet for advice, including posts on this forum, although there's some good advice, there's also some bad, sometimes contradictory, even directly opposing, advice. It can be hard to know what or whom to believe.

Anyhow, my recommendation is to use Google (or Bing, if your computer uses the microsoft system search engine).

Hope this helps.

Buzz

Here are part of the results if using the method above, can't apparently link to searches, used print screen:









Just checked out Stars again, at this time there are some fl and pl tournament hu tables going, not only nl. The cash game side looks as grim as earlier.

Personally I appreciate your posts.

I don't always respond.

But even when I don't respond, your posts get me to thinking about the game. (And I enjoy thinking about the game).

All poker is, in my humble opinion, a game of deception. Of the various poker games played in casinos, I think Omaha-8 poker is one of the more complex poker games. To be successful I think you need to be deceptive (but not overly so) and also determine when your opponents are being truthful. You want to determine what your opponents really want you to do and you also want your opponents to do what you want them to do.

(For example, when an opponent raises, does he want to push you out of the pot, does he want to collect more from you, or does he want you to re-raise so as to push a third opponent out of the pot. When you raise, is it because you want your opponent to fold, contribute more to the pot, or re-raise to push another opponent out of the pot... something like that).

Unless you're playing heads-up, you have different opponents playing at different skill levels. And you have to take that into account. (That's more or less the same as in any other game... or life in general).

When playing Omaha-8, I try to think in two-card combinations for the purpose of simplification in my own mind. But all four (or five) cards may play a role in tactics and/or strategy. Flushes play an important role, much more so than in Texas hold 'em. Position matters, as do other details like how many players were originally dealt cards, and how they dropped out, if they dropped out.

When you post questions about hands, I think it's better if you include details, even when you don't think those details matter. Let anyone trying to answer be the one to break your hand down into individual two-card combinations if he/she thinks that should be done.

But whatever you do, by all means, please continue your posts here in this forum.

Buzz

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Buzz

Yes. That works rather well.

Thanks.

Buzz

Alright cool, good stuff Buzz. You def helped get me really into this game. I was searching for a new game after Razz disappeared and O8 was a perfect fit. Less variance and alot more people that don't know what they are doing. Just wish it had more volume. Usually for heads up I just play position and try to figure out how well they understand the game. Usually after 10-15m I can get a good idea if they are just gambling, ok player, reg, or someone in the MasterMind TM group. Then adjust to them based on reads, how aggro they play draws, and other board textures.

oh and if you reg folding to a 3 bet is outta of the question unless you opened 9992. so make sure you fold to 3 bet never dips below 99%