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Old 02-04-2012, 12:21 AM   #1
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Club 8/16 LO8: K93r flop, 4 way, good stab?

full game, a good tag opens 3-off the BTN, a very loose (the spot in the game) player calls from the CO, an older unknown (possibly on the tight-passive side) calls from the SB and hero calls with A469 from the BB.

1) would you call from the BB with pretty much any suited-A hand in this spot?

Flop (4 players, 8 small bets): K93
SB checks, hero bets...

I lead into the pfr, who figures to miss this flop a lot of the time, and put him in a bad relative position. if it comes runner-runner low, I may very well win the low if I can get the pfr to fold.

There aren't whole lot of reasons for players to continue on this flop, being unsuited, mostly disconnected and with only 1 low card.

i'm getting 8:1 on my stab, and I do have a bunch of good turn cards to catch (either for my actual hand or for hands I might be able to represent), allowing me to fire a likely profitable second barrel.

I'd probably also take a stab if the pot weren't raised before the flop, because even though I get worse price on my steal attempt, I stand a better chance to win, expecting no resistance in a small pot unless my opponents have K+straight draw, kings up or better, or QJT*...

I wouldn't tag my bet as a "complete steal", probably more of a "thin semi-bluff". I wouldn't like to stab too often, otherwise opponents may catch up.

my alternative is check/folding. the added value of getting hands to fold might make a bet slightly profitable, while check/calling clearly isn't.

2) Do you think I have enough to make a thin semi-bluff in this spot?

3) What otherwise marginal hands would you consider leading with in this spot?

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:43 PM   #2
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Re: 8/16 LO8: K93r flop, 4 way, good stab?

1) Yes, due to pot odds, the CO coming in, and the fact that the opener doesn't need to have a premium hand here.

2) I like it depending on your image. I would assume you haven't been overdoing it which will help the bluff side of the move. Of course you will still have to beat the CO at showdown but the current size of the pot, your back door draws, and the pair should be enough to make it only a "semi" bluff.

3) Some mostly high-only hands that got only a small piece of the flop. Probably 93xx.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:09 PM   #3
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Re: 8/16 LO8: K93r flop, 4 way, good stab?

c/c...meh. your runners aren't clean enough. c/f or lead, but i think leading may be slightly > because there's more in the middle and it's esp. good if the others don't have too good of an "imagination" (ie) where they're routinely peeling in these spots/flops; your semibluff prolly works better in an unraised pot and for the obv. reasons.

i would lead w/ a lot of the high-only hands/gutters, middle pairs, AJ, AQ, and AT etc..

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