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Old 06-29-2012, 06:27 AM   #1
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Diamond $6r, gross spot m-way

It`s MTT.
30 starters, 5 left, 3 ITM. 3rd gets 15buy-ins.

I want to emphasize opponents were mostly bad, since it was a tourney w/o any guaranteed prize pool.

BTN is 28/3/ 2 -AF (76 hands)
SB is 24/4/3 - AF (75 hands) RWPC - 7%. Cbet 100% flops (3/3)
They both were passive pre-flop and have leaks post-flop.
So they called my raises a lot (when I was OR) and often c/f-ed flop, until they had hit some good piece of it. But this time I`m not OR.

I run 32/23.

PartyGaming - $5+$1|750/1500 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): 65,470.00
UTG: 16,508.00
CO: 24,971.00
BTN: 61,111.00
SB: 97,440.00

SB posts SB 750.00, Hero posts BB 1,500.00

Pre Flop: (2250.00) Hero has J A K A

fold, fold, BTN calls 1,500.00, SB raises to 4,500.00, Hero calls 3,000.00, BTN calls 3,000.00

Flop: (13500.00, 3 players) Q T 2
SB bets 13,500.00, Hero calls 13,500.00, BTN raises to 56,611.00 and is all-in, SB raises to 92,940.00 and is all-in, Hero....?

Since it was rare occasion when SB was raising pre he cbet all flops implying strength.
I thought he`d cbet KK, QT, some sdv+FD, maybe even AQ type hands, so having 9 clean outs and being IP I thought I can call and re-eval ott, expecting button to fold 90% of times. But button has squeezed and SB 3b-jammed.

My PO has improved, but I have to reduce my 9 outs considering at least one of them would have a re-draw (like 30% equity ott).

So i have like ~6 outs, but as I`ve said they both were bad and could stack off with wide range of non-nutted hands or be drawing, having common outs.

Should I call here?
What do you think generally about the hand?
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #2
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Re: $6r, gross spot m-way

easy fold. especially since there are two shortstacks
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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Re: $6r, gross spot m-way

Fold, fold fold. Calling your whole stack all in, drawing pretty thin, after that action, with two short stacks? Also....to quote yourself!!

"So they called my raises a lot (when I was OR) and often c/f-ed flop, until they had hit some good piece of it.".

This is not a gross spot.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
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Re: $6r, gross spot m-way

3bet/shove PF, IMO.

As played, shove flop the first time.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #5
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Re: $6r, gross spot m-way

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I want to emphasize opponents were mostly bad, since it was a tourney w/o any guaranteed prize pool.
How does that follow? If guarantee tournaments get enough entrants to cover the fee, as usually happens, all they do is attract more entrants. Good players like that, but fish like it just as much.

[I have never played that particular tournament, as it is too early in the morning for me, so I cannot comment on its actual strength.]
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Old 07-03-2012, 06:48 AM   #6
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Re: $6r, gross spot m-way

Easy jam on the flop.

But yeah, you should reraise preflop pot here.
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