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That's a really good question.

I still might raise, and, obv. I'm more likely to raise vs fewer opponents. If I had to give an answer in a vacuum...I would raise. Really weak flush draws w/no other immediate strong-ish draws are likely to fold for two bets unless they are really gambly/spewy. I feel by raising here that the next street(and who shows up for it) become more clear for me. Not always of course but a lot of the time.

Last edited by Rush17; 04-15-2016 at 12:43 AM.

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04-15-2016 , 03:07 AM

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EndoBird

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Call flop, fold turn. At best we get half. Why draw to half when someone could check raise then what? You're putting yourself in a bad spot with nothing but top pair. AQ, KK, AA, and any other two pair hand is beating you not to mention the free rolled lows, A2467 combos out there. Save your $ and fold turn.

As played, call river.

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04-15-2016 , 05:30 AM

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chillrob

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He has top two pair.

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04-15-2016 , 06:13 PM

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Buzz

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Originally Posted by chillrob

He has top two pair.

He does on the flop, but it's not likely to remain the top two pair. (Indeed it doesn't). And even if it does, a straight or flush may become possible. (Indeed, two straights become possible). Top two pair, if kings and jacks, are substantially better (more likely to stand up) than top two pair, if queens and eights.

Two pair is probably the most winning type of high hand in my games, but it's also the most losing type of high hand. You really like two pairs to include aces (or at least kings).

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04-15-2016 , 06:57 PM

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chillrob

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I wasn't trying to say he had a great hand, just was correcting EndoBird, who thought hero only had one pair on the turn.

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04-15-2016 , 07:18 PM

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Hero Value

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Originally Posted by Rush17

That's a really good question.

I still might raise, and, obv. I'm more likely to raise vs fewer opponents.

What? Definitely not obvious, and I actually think it's the opposite.

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04-15-2016 , 08:08 PM

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deadpeddler

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Originally Posted by Hero Value

What? Definitely not obvious, and I actually think it's the opposite.

I agree with Hero,

get 6 players in the hand and the deck should be rich in 9s cap this flop all day IMO.

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04-15-2016 , 09:04 PM

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Hero Value

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Originally Posted by deadpeddler

I agree with Hero,

get 6 players in the hand and the deck should be rich in 9s cap this flop all day IMO.

Yep. But also you just want to fold out other's equity by raising, and getting it less multi-way, which preserves your equity, and so the blinds and the limper would then have to face 2 bets cold (or possibly more than 2 bets), so you get considerably more folds from them.

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04-15-2016 , 10:58 PM

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Smarty 2.0

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Fold pre, raise river

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04-21-2016 , 02:55 PM

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Drrr.Gonzo

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When making the nut hi or low is it not best to lead or raise every time in hopes to get your opponent to fold his portion of the pot?

for example lets say the turn was a 9 and the river was a deuce would you not lead every time?

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04-21-2016 , 10:20 PM

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Hero Value

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It's pretty tough to lead a river when we're on the button.

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04-30-2016 , 06:19 PM

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DesertCat

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Originally Posted by deadpeddler

we are On the button with Q

6 Max tbl, our image should be pretty agressive and loose.

Isn't that hand a significant dog to a random hand, and we called a raise with it?

Aggressive and loose, I should say so.

Edit: I know it has some implied odds, and plays better multiway. But I prefer to make nuttier flushes and straights.

Last edited by DesertCat; 04-30-2016 at 06:27 PM.

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05-09-2016 , 01:28 PM

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paratrooper99

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Originally Posted by deadpeddler

Hero coldcalls(anyone folding or 3 betting this.)

Never 3 betting. Folding almost 100% of the time to a raise. Calling 50% of the time when limped to Hero. We need to understand that if a low is made, we never have a chance at the low. High only. Playing 3 - 4 handed, you can be more aggressive with High only hands but with 6 max/full ring just play ABC even with position.

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Originally Posted by deadpeddler

river comes the pretty 9

so we aren't getting scooped at least..

checks to preflop agressor who bets again

Should our hero raise or call?

You are not getting scooped but there is no guarantee that you will get half the pot. The correct play would be to just call ensuring that the UTG limper calls with his entire range. You don't to scare him off of a set/2 pair.

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