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40-80 limit O8, anyone hate this line? 40-80 limit O8, anyone hate this line?

11-19-2015 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Lol. Now that seems just horrible. This has to be one of the worst flops to lead on with our actual hand (into the 3bettor). And I don't think that I would actually lead this flop with any hand anyway.
Oops, I missed that hero was reraised pf. Yeah, not in love with leading now. I would c/c and see a turn.
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11-21-2015 , 01:23 AM
I'm fine with a c/f on flop. Dont really think it's a WTF moment at all. People get dealt good hands and they 3 bet them, happens all the time. An older gent 3 bet your utg raise so threat of AA, AK, AQ are very real and if he doesn't have that he most likely has a pretty low hand that may include 23 and some of those suits that came out. At least give me a backdoor flush draw or something. I realize your pot odds are large but your equity is probably bad and there is RIO.

On another note I'm fine with limp dicking this pre
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11-21-2015 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
I'm fine with a c/f on flop. Dont really think it's a WTF moment at all. People get dealt good hands and they 3 bet them, happens all the time. An older gent 3 bet your utg raise so threat of AA, AK, AQ are very real and if he doesn't have that he most likely has a pretty low hand that may include 23 and some of those suits that came out. At least give me a backdoor flush draw or something. I realize your pot odds are large but your equity is probably bad and there is RIO.

On another note I'm fine with limp dicking this pre
Obv I agree with the first paragraph, as I already said.

Second statement is something overlooked so far. I guess the consensus is raise when first in, regardless of cards in a 6 max game?

In a full game you might limp with all low cards because it's better to try to get a lot of people into the pot, or so goes the wisdom of the push/pull method.

In a 6 max game, it's something i have pondered many times and experimented with, with no particular advantage or disadvantage either way as far as I can tell. The same is true of my experience in a full game. Limping doesn't appear to drastically change how many people play the hand, except maybe the blinds - who often call anyway when it's raised because of pot odds.

What is the view of others in this regard?
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11-21-2015 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS

In a full game you might limp with all low cards because it's better to try to get a lot of people into the pot, or so goes the wisdom of the push/pull method.

In a 6 max game, it's something i have pondered many times and experimented with, with no particular advantage or disadvantage either way as far as I can tell. The same is true of my experience in a full game. Limping doesn't appear to drastically change how many people play the hand, except maybe the blinds - who often call anyway when it's raised because of pot odds.

What is the view of others in this regard?
You just don't want to make yourself too exploitable. Ex.: there's a lady that plays with me who ALWAYS raises, reraises or caps it when she has AA. Regardless of her side cards, who raised coming in, and even if five people already called...if she gets the Aces, she's raising. But, if she gets a pretty-looking low hand, she NEVER raises.

You shouldn't always do X all of the time, whether that X means that you're always raising or you're never raising. It'll be too easy for players to figure you out.

Fwiw, I consider myself to be an "older gent" and I'm three betting you pre with AA/, A2KQ, A2T9, and A234r. Oh, and I'm also calling you in this spot w/these hands, too.
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11-21-2015 , 11:03 PM
The biggest benefit to raising is that the blinds will frequently call either way, and you have both an equity and positional edge against them, so you would rather they put more money into the pot to see the flop. If they do happen to fold, that's great too, because it improves your pot equity by increasing the dead money.

That said, I think limping this hand in early position is fine too. I would definitely open raise it in later position.
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11-24-2015 , 12:59 PM
how is this not a check/fold on the flop?

Is a runner-runner for half the pot really a good enough reason to stay in the pot?

Also how is folding on red AKJ boards where villain 3b pre exploitable? If anything, that board smacks the 3bettor harder. It's not like we're folding a lot of flop.

What are you guys check/folding on the flop?
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