So I am playing at MD Live that is a $120 re-entry tournament (side note, the rake seems really high - $15 for tournament and then another 8% on top of that).

38 runners. Start with 8k. Pays out 4 people. We are down to 13 people I have about 26k and am in the BB at 800/1600. We are playing 6 handed. I have been rather tight and have only shown down big hands. The only pot I have lost so when I was quartered. I have been taking down the pots without really having to show ever.

Loose asian lady calls in MP, sb completes, I have 55sQ8s and check my option. I have seen her fire at a lot of pots on the flop.
Pot = 4,800
Flop comes J7c5c
sb checks, I check(?), loose asian lady bets pot for 4800 and has another 4 - 5k behind. What is the play here?


We are down to 12 people. Average is 25-26k. I have about 25k on the btn, blinds are 1k - 2k. Folded to me on the btn. SB has about 40k and BB has like 60-70k. Sb has been rather tight and I think BB is playing about 50 - 60% of hands (usually limping). BB seems very good o8 player, but has had people just donate to him. He tends to be on the looser side and make some questionable calls on the river.

I have A4J8r on the btn.
It's folded to me and I raise to 4k. SB folds, BB makes a comment about it not being enough for him to get out and calls.
Pot = 9,000
Flop: T75r
BB checks, I bet 6k, he re-pots to put me all in. What is your move here?
If I fold I will have about 15-16k.

Fold.

You'll usually win, but you'll lose often enough to make calling not worth the risk of losing. In a cash game, I'd shove... but not in a tournament.

I read that "tell" as BB not liking your bet and insulting you in retaliation. So if he doesn't like your bet, he probably doesn't have a great starting hand.

First I wince. Then I call. (Not impossible for his starting hand to fit this flop, but I think he's trying to bully you... meanwhile you have some outs).

Buzz

Buzz,

Thanks for your response. I would like to know what some other people think and then I will post results.

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Seems like no one else is interested.

First hand:
Thought for a while and then ended up folding.

Second hand:
Ended up calling and he has A3JT so I was dominated. Turn K. River K.

Hand 1- I'm putting her all in every time. You said she is active on the flop, and you just gave her the green light. She can probably have all kinds of two pair hands, a jack with a crap low draw, naked low draw... sometimes she will have something, but I wouldn't blindly assume it. Even if you lose you have around 10bb.

Hand 2- I think I just muck AJ84r, definitely not min-raising unless the blinds are extremely weak. As played, I would probably check back the flop and try to hit a nine, especially after his speech. After you get C/R'd, just fold. It sucks but so does your hand.

I think that the "tell" here is that his hand is usually opposite of what he says. When you get the speech about the bet then he is usually quite comfortable with his hand.

OP flopped a double gutter and a low draw, I think he needs to make the C-bet close to full pot if he is calling a shove. This is a good flop for hero because often BB only has a low draw and you want him to fold. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

Oh and definitely shove hand 1.

20% rake is pretty standard in live low buyin tournaments.

Hand 1 I bet out the flop to try to get a feeler/control size of pot and if she ships I crying call unless she gives off some serious live tell that she has higher set or lo+fl dr. I have learned its not really worth just checking your pretty good hands and better to control pot size by taking the initiative in plo8.

Hand 2 You have to consider if bb is playing 50-60% of hands hes coming along for flop almost always if you just min raise and then you need to consider your reads on him/her that he is outplaying ppl postflop and therefore a good player. This is all my opinion, but pre I think you should have 3x/potd bc if you hit any sort of a flop your in the situation you ended up with where you are getting cr'd allin by him if he outflops you in any way or possibly with a coin flip. I think its either fold or bet big pre forcing him to realize hes most likely risking a decent chunk of his stack(1/3) postflop likely behind if he just calls pre, causing him to ship pre or fold, forcing him to show his hand strength preflop. Also with a big stack in the sb you are inviting him along with any wwwx or even sometimes wwxx cards bc he knows in adv the bb is coming along if you just minraise and he's calling knowing postflop you can be jamming, giving him an opportunity to take you out and even possible take a huge chunk off the bb. If you had potd or 3xed and bb comes along by flatting I snap jam any flop I hit(or pot pretty much effectively jamming) even if he pots into me on flop most likely. Him calling a pot pre would define his hand as not strong enough to repot pre more often then not even given hes a semi calldonk. As played crying call. I try to always avoid a situation like this though by taking into acct your preflop action more. In this hand preflop you probably gave off the image you were semi weak by not 3xing or potting with an m of 10 vs 2 big stack, likely blind defenders. You looked as if you almost were trying to leave yourself room to fold post if you miss like there is a decent chance with the hand you had you might miss. It also looks like you have a hand that has a decent chance of not quite smacking most boards. You're image would have come off as weak to me if I was in the bb. Also on the flop you could have def played it by checking back considering a 6k bet is a semi steal attempt where if you get xr you are in a horrible spot because you half hit the board. I find in situations where you'll likely be playing for stacks it is normally better to check back if you have decent to semi good equity and bet if you have no equity or alot of equity. I could elaborate on that as well, I think you would probably already understand that concept.

ps i think what he said pre was sort of a feeler/relevel