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Old 08-20-2012, 01:15 PM   #1
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Diamond $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (150/300 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13761492

    MP: 10,314 (34.4 bb)
    Hero (CO): 26,794 (89.3 bb)
    BTN: 5,156 (17.2 bb)
    SB: 15,608 (52 bb)
    BB: 16,596 (55.3 bb)
    UTG: 10,282 (34.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T J T K
    UTG calls 300, MP folds, Hero calls 300, BTN calls 300, SB completes, BB checks

    Flop: (1,500) T K A (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 300, Hero raises to 600, 3 folds, UTG calls 300

    Turn: (2,700) 7 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets 1,894, UTG calls 1,894

    River: (6,488) A (2 players)
    UTG bets 2,250

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    Old 08-20-2012, 01:40 PM   #2
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Call. Although we could easily be beat by some random Axxx hand odds are way too good to fold here.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 04:01 PM   #3
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    I guess calling is fine, but his hand looks an awful lot like a better set/top 2 that got there.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 06:25 PM   #4
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

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    I guess calling is fine, but his hand looks an awful lot like a better set/top 2 that got there.
    this. in game given the odds im probably calling tho
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    Old 08-20-2012, 09:45 PM   #5
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    not much to add in terms of the original question, but a couple thoughts...

    I like the bet from UTG on the river (assuming it was a bluff) except the sizing was terrible. I think betting 2/3 pot will take it down a lot of the time given the prior action and interesting river card.

    What was the goal of the min raise on the flop?
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    Old 08-20-2012, 10:09 PM   #6
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Value/protection. And the hand plays easier based on his actions. We also have position.

    I'm tempted to check back the turn, but it's going to lead to tricky spots on the river.
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    Old 08-20-2012, 10:11 PM   #7
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Zeebo's theorem: No one ever folds a full house.
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    Old 08-21-2012, 10:56 AM   #8
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

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    Value/protection. And the hand plays easier based on his actions. We also have position.
    Min. raising a min. bet with bottom set+gutter+BDFD seems bad, you are going to get a significant number of calls (basically folding out all the hands you crush) and you don't want a 3bet but you can have a lot of equity when you get them (and bare QJ might even just call and x/r safe turns, so the calls are sometimes drawing to blanks).
    Any A, K, J or diamond is bad on the turn, and any low cards isn't "good" either ... esp. if he can x/r turn with AK+low draw. At least the 9 doesn't make anything .
    I think I'd probably raise to at least 900 and 1,200 is probably better, and then pot/call this turn. Just calling flop is OK too is too.

    Even if you are min. raising wide here, I still think it'd be better to raise to 900 with your bluffs too.
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    Old 08-21-2012, 11:41 AM   #9
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    The mere fact that we're raising (and betting is going to be reopened for UTG should be enough to fold out some stuff we want to fold. Betting more only gets called by QJxx. So there's a balance there. I'm probably checking back or b/f a lot of turns.
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    Old 08-21-2012, 11:42 AM   #10
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Pot/calling this turn as played seems spewy to me.
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    Old 08-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #11
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    I would call too, but

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    Old 08-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #12
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    Re: $11+R riverspot w a boat

    Maybe it is me but I smell a big hand by him...look at the flop bet sizing...either hes baiting or AK got there imo. I don't like the min raise on the flop.
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