The hand with the least showdown value is not always the one with the most outs. I absolutely don't agree with you, but this is not a holdem forum and its way off topic! There are different ways to balance of course and its difficult to be definitive about what is exactly the GTO strategy on a particular board with a particular hand. I'm sorry, I'm not discussing this any further here.

A question not being asked here is you consider the turn a bluff. Ok, lets assume that's true for now. Lets now ask what you have fold equity against. Most of the hands he calls the flop with are weak draws,( 85, 89, 23, 24+ a pair) any 7, any big pair, maybe KK, possibly in this specific case could have even been TT. Because of this, I don't think there is much merit in betting. The hands you do get them off like 23, or other weak lo draws, don't hurt ya terribly to keep in anyway since your range is very effective for value in position on most rivers. Becuase of this, i think the proper question is bet for value and risk a check raise, or just check behind and risk missing a turn bet. What do you think?

I don't know how I missed this thread earlier, but just wanted to say this is an awesome thread. Gives me a whole 'nother appreciation for several of the posters in this forum.

I hope you're not talking about me. my last post was written by the old, nasty, str8 or worse...

All your posts (ITT) are belong to gold.

I can appreciate yours, AKQJT, and RedHot's view on LO8 a lot more now, because I basically agree with the things (ranges, GTO, barrelling frequencies, etc.) you guys are thinking about.

don't confuse solid urine with gold...

your line is fine, i would call the river against some opponents on the chance i can beat their a2x or a54 type hands

Could be dangerous I have only just started learning L08......