final table $109 $3k on FTP,i have 1/7,itm7


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Stacks:
UTG princesspolly_x (38,639) 24bb
UTG+1 Premove (54,782) 34bb
MP Arcus Cosinus (43,873) 27bb
CO PSVlasov (37,955) 24bb
BTN mattyv (46,220) 29bb
SB Alien Minds (34,614) 22bb
BB ColdBryan (19,917) 12bb

Blinds: 800/1,600 Ante 200

Pre-Flop: (3,800, 7 players) Premove is UTG+1 A 2 7 6
1 fold, Premove raises to 3,200, 2 folds, mattyv calls 3,200, Alien Minds calls 2,400, ColdBryan calls 1,600

Flop: 8 K 5 (14,200, 4 players)
Alien Minds checks, ColdBryan checks, Premove bets 8,999, mattyv calls 8,999, Alien Minds folds, ColdBryan folds

Turn: 2 (32,198, 2 players)
Premove goes all-in 42,383????,

1. game on flop

2. game on turn

I actually like both streets. Your opponent has a pot-sized bet behind, so if you will never fold turn there, why not put pressure on him. If you would check/fold turn in some cases, you also have to mix in check/bet all-ins to not be exploited. I don't think we should ever bet/fold the turn here.

I would just C/F the turn, in general, especially if my opponent is never shoving light. Getting caught here would be disastrous if he has us beat both ways, which a TON of hands do. Unless he got counterfeited too he's probably calling.

Flop is fine.

Turn. With only 1 psb left, not sure what you fold out that a competent villain would call the flop with.

I think it's good because you are folding out other A2s and I don't think he gets to the turn with enough a3s,

not the greatest of spots but I think I approve

Gross turn. FML. I'd do the same and hate myself if I got scooped.

The thing is, us jamming when he only has 1psb doesn't really increase our fold equity that much. He really shouldn't be call folding that often. It just means when he calls (because he is so short and really shouldn't be call folding here) we are getting it in pretty crushed for such a large % of our stack.

I prefer C/F to B/F. The more I look at, the more I think just pushing the flop with the pot size isn't that bad a play especially once they both check. The FE is on the flop in this hand not the turn IMO (regardless of the turn card).

I think these hands look stronger than they are. When Matty calls the raise he probably has at least a2+ a pair or he could have a really solid high with a marginal low and looking for a safe turn.

As usual I disagree with attentionnoone as I think a3/a4 with some kind of high is a big part of mattys range here.

I'm guessing in this mtt you are either just in the money or on the bubble?

Shoving close to 30 bb out of position on the turn when matty could have nuts both ways and we have nothing but 3rd best low and an open ended str8 draw is a spew imo.

I think out of position against 2nd in chips better to play this hand conservatively. We are chip leader in a fairly big mtt which is heavily weighted towards 1/2nd place and we are on a final table I don't see why we want to punt are stack in against the guy who can close to bust us on the off chance he has a hand he can fold.

I was discussing UTG opening with a friend recently and I personally do not like the mini raise UTG although I'm sure most people disagree with me. I am betting at least 2.5 with every hand here and 3 times sometimes. I would need a specific reason to open this for a mini raise utg.

The more I think about it the more I think betting flop is bad here as we are not getting called by much that we beat and are drawing to only 8 cards for a scoop/chance at winning high so we are going to need to make some very difficult decisions in a bloated pot on the turn more often than not whilst being out of position.

I think this hand becomes so much easier to play with position.

You're gonna call so you might as well bet.

Yeah but dat equity... plus fold equity.... DAT EQUITY

I see your point and I guess it is strange spot as I do not like a check much either. I guess leading out has its merits.

However there are spots that come up where you will check even when you will 100% be calling for pot control.

I think that with the final table dynamic this could be one of them.

I am much clearer about turn play and I am sure I do not like a shove here.

Fair enough but it almost doesn't matter what card came out on the turn, hero is pretty much committed to shoving regardless at close to even money STP. that means the only street to argue about is the flop, which is close. It might be ok to check there and hit your nutty draws for nothing

otherwise, the hand pretty much played itself, min raising from UTG with this hand is +ev except if villain knows that's the only hand you min-raise from UTG, which seems to be quite common

im not a fan of the minraise pre. on the flop most people make the mistake of bloating the pot. your bet is a bit too much imo.

your turn bet is a spew plain and simple.