Originally Posted by monikrazy
i just started using odds oracle - its from the same guy as PQL and is beefed up a little
That's Bachfan, the ProPokerTools guy. He does good work.
it has some card removal functions that i have started using in 08 sims - its not perfect, but it is way easier than me trying to work them out myself
it lets you ask questions like: what are the odds at least one player has the nut low on the turn and what are the odds at least one player has the spade flush draw on the turn
[given their starting range]
similarly: it can also estimate what are the odds of at least one player being on the nut low draw given the board, your cards, and players starting ranges
i've been using this to revisit my approach to some tricky situations
my numbers came out a little different than yours but i reached the same conclusion that we should be calling the turn and can probably play river profitable for 1-2 bets
The exact way you phrase the question affects the way the problem is set up. Perhaps that's the difference.
Anyhow, thanks for the information.