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WCOOP PL/NL O8 Contest WCOOP PL/NL O8 Contest

08-17-2016 , 10:08 AM
We're having a PL/NL O8 contest for this year's WCOOP.
Entry is $100.

Prizes based on # of entries
0-5 entries: 100% to 1st
6-10 entries: 80% to 1st, 20% to 2nd
11+ entries: 70% to 1st, 20% to 2nd, 10% to 3rd

Contest consists of the highest total prizes in the following three events:

Event 22: $215 PL 5-Card Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max], Max Re-Entries: 3
Event 25: $1,050 NL Omaha Hi/Lo Championship [6-Max], Max Re-Entries: 1
Event 36: $1,050 PL Omaha Hi/Lo Championship [8-Max], Max Re-Entries: 1

Grim has generously volunteered to escrow funds, which are due before start of first MTT included (Sat. Sept. 10th 7 AM EST). Grim, what is your exact User Name on Stars? GrimIsCool?

So far indications of interest from me, Hero Value, DaCus, billygstar, and Winningstek.
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08-17-2016 , 12:24 PM
Grimiscool indeed. UK, Picture of a dog by a fan (A Hot Dog, get it?)
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08-18-2016 , 08:12 PM
Ah, just seen this thread.
Other lower ones not going to be included?
Yeah imo FLO8 should be included too, as I think including everything is just a better overall test of O8 skill. Even if it's just the 1 1k flo8 that is included and not also the 320.

I'd probably vote for the $200 buy-in like we were discussing (from the point of effort and the relative buy -in sizes), but $100 is fine too.

Why did you decide (by yourself?) on highest total prizes? Imo more interesting if the lower ones are included too, and in that case we could maybe judge by points.
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08-18-2016 , 09:10 PM
should do 1 contest for the non 1ks and then 1 for the 1ks imo.
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08-19-2016 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Ah, just seen this thread.
Other lower ones not going to be included?
Yeah imo FLO8 should be included too, as I think including everything is just a better overall test of O8 skill. Even if it's just the 1 1k flo8 that is included and not also the 320.
I initially proposed including the $1k FLO8 and am still agreeable to it being included. I think Winningstek didn't want it included and he was first to reply? I can see both sides, but agree that playing the highest buy-ins of each of the 4 O8 variants offered in WCOOP (FLO8, PLO8, NLO8, Big O) seems best.

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Originally Posted by Hero Value
I'd probably vote for the $200 buy-in like we were discussing (from the point of effort and the relative buy -in sizes), but $100 is fine too.
Doesn't really matter to me. We discussed that as the range, but don't think we settled on an amount. $200 is fine, considering buy-ins of Championship events are > $1k each.

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Why did you decide (by yourself?) on highest total prizes? Imo more interesting if the lower ones are included too, and in that case we could maybe judge by points.
As far as highest total prizes, it just seemed easiest, and that's what we're all playing for in the events. Yes, I guess I "decided by myself," because I was the one who proposed the contest and no one objected until this point. There was talk of starting a thread and nobody started one, so I did. I considered starting a poll, but then are we going to have polls for entry fee, events included, points vs. prizes, etc.? Seems rather complicated when 5 people have shown interest to this point. Points seems more complicated and not sure what the advantage really is (if several places pay the same, does it really make sense to award more points to higher finisher in that range? IDK).

As far as the lower buy-ins, I will only be able to play the $320 PLO8. I have work commitments before that, so won't be able to play the other two lower BI events. If it's decide to include all the O8 events (including a potential Players' Choice event(?), then it wouldn't make sense for me to be in the contest... and that's fine).
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08-19-2016 , 03:38 AM
What about something that includes all O8 MTTs but only top 3/4 cashes count towards total score?
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08-19-2016 , 03:47 AM
I'm good with that Grim.
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08-19-2016 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
What about something that includes all O8 MTTs but only top 3/4 cashes count towards total score?
I won't put $200 towards a contest where I'm at an instant disadvantage due to not being able to play the first two $320 BI events. So I'd be OK with either just including the 4 "main" O8 events or each participant selecting ahead of time 4 or 5 of the O8 events (the latter would be more work). Otherwise, I think I'm out.
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08-22-2016 , 11:21 AM
Split it into Higher and Lower brackets then?
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08-22-2016 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
Split it into Higher and Lower brackets then?
I'd join it in that format.
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08-22-2016 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
Split it into Higher and Lower brackets then?
Meaning separate contests for higher & lower BIs?

It would help if more people voice their preferences sooner rather than later.
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08-30-2016 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AllInNTheDark
Meaning separate contests for higher & lower BIs?

It would help if more people voice their preferences sooner rather than later.
Yeah I agree. Only 5 days away til it starts, so I think that we should aim to get it all escrowed by like the 2nd.

I think just one bracket/buyin price point would be easiest seeing as we don't have that many players, and it might just separate players and make 1 bracket small.
But I'm down for 2 if 2 brackets will definitely be able to run with a reasonable amount of people.
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08-30-2016 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Yeah I agree. Only 5 days away til it starts, so I think that we should aim to get it all escrowed by like the 2nd.

I think just one bracket/buyin price point would be easiest seeing as we don't have that many players, and it might just separate players and make 1 bracket small.
But I'm down for 2 if 2 brackets will definitely be able to run with a reasonable amount of people.
I had pretty much written it off, since no responses/suggestions until now.

It has to be the big buy-in events only, or I'm out. Someone else doesn't want FLO8. So either we do 4 big BI events (and lose a contestant?)... do the 3 PL/NL big BI events... or each pick 3/4 to count? Also, limiting it to the big BI events gives us until Sat. 9/10 before first event starts. Only other alternative I'm up for is picking 5 of 7 or 6 of 8 of the O8 events (still waiting for final results of PC#2 voting).

$200 entry fee and using prize $ in chosen events seems pretty set.
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09-01-2016 , 10:33 PM
Well I think that we should just settle on it and set in stone. Like I presume that people don't show interest or are dubious when discussions about it are still happening and it isn't final.
Especially as it's nearly time, that way people can just join in or not, and we'll see if it will run.

So I propose that we just say:
$200 entry fee, the 4 $1k O8 events, and most prizemoney earned wins. And the deadline can be like Sept 4th.
We already have at least 3 people. Let's go.
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09-02-2016 , 02:38 AM
Let's go.

I'm ****ing ready!

EDIT: I only see 3 1k o8's though.
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09-02-2016 , 11:19 AM
Nice

Oh yeah 3 1ks, I just read where he said."4 big buy-in events", but I now see that he included the $215 re-entry 5 card, which I'm also fine with including, I don't mind.
But maybe it makes more sense as the 3 1ks, like as it's $ won.
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09-02-2016 , 04:39 PM
I think we should just do the 1K's.
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09-02-2016 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Well I think that we should just settle on it and set in stone. Like I presume that people don't show interest or are dubious when discussions about it are still happening and it isn't final.
Especially as it's nearly time, that way people can just join in or not, and we'll see if it will run.

So I propose that we just say:
$200 entry fee, the 4 $1k O8 events, and most prizemoney earned wins. And the deadline can be like Sept 4th.
We already have at least 3 people. Let's go.
I agree that time for (mostly non-existent) discussion is about over and it should be set, if it's gonna happen.

No reason to set deadline of Sep. 4th though, when the first big BI event doesn't start until Sep. 10th.

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Originally Posted by WINNINGSTEK
I think we should just do the 1K's.
Before you didn't want to include the LO8, but seemed fine with 5CPLO8.

I think it should be the 4 big BI events, as they are 4 different variants of O8.
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