Nope was thursday or friday, had him at all my 18man bubbles

nothing new im running xxx again.
but here i have to call right?even so villain is a winning reg.

i don't call that running bad

ic so u think i`m just a bad player

no, hitting this flop that hard is running good. horrible runout I guess, but you can't ask for more with this hand.

Pretty much this.

However maybe jamming the flop could be the best play in the long run

Why should jamming be the best EV play? Nobody folds a hand with more equity then
our hand against a shove. I don't even see any hand with at least 40% equity against us
folding, the only hands folding are hands where we have such a huge lead we don't
want them folding.

If u fold here quit poker. Bet calling it off 100% of the time. Dunno why you would shove unless you have a dynamic where you shove light, but really that's pretty unlikely on this board.

I just think this is a spot where we don't want to be inducing a jam. Our hand is nice but it isn't that nice. We can't check fold so its easier with initiative to just jam it in. I think willingly taking a 60/40 in this spot is a big ICM mistake.

But I could be wrong

Hi guys playing these ($1,50 and $3,50) a bit lately.

Have been reading this topic a bit and that has been quite helpfull.

Have 2 work on my tilt tho and have to stop berating people (I know not cool)

Sorry if i did that 2 any of u guys

Monster under the bed much? I mean why do you assume your getting shoved into?
Villain could call so many hand that we have crushed equity wise... And are calling
a normal flop bet give up to a second barrel etc. And 60/40 is huge your calling way
worse preflop AI with AK23ss or something where your never 60/40 (and not
2k dead money in the pot) in that spot and even those are +$EV.

It's not monsters under the bed at all. I can't imagine many competent Villains calling a flop bet then folding to a turn bet. I just think a shove lets us play perfectly and lets our opponents make the mistakes.

Also when it comes to +$EV even if it is i'm pretty jamming and taking the flop down is a more +$EV play.

The great thing with hi/lo sng's is there are varying ways of playing them and different styles. I'm not really going to go much more into this hand because I think i'm going to be giving a lot of free information out which I could be charging for.

late stage sng. jamming that flop is the way to go.

Agreed, I would be jaming the flop too. Villian might call the flop bet,and if you dont get there on the turn you will have to stack off because of being pot commited. However you will have potentially both less fold equity and actual equity in the hand at that point.

With your stack size you have a good chance to make it into the money, fliping on the turn with the guy that can damage you the most doesnt seem very inviting.

Also you can hit the turn barrel and villian might fold and then you dont get all his chips.

TBH though I would shove the flop and hope villian folds and be happy to get the extra chips without risking my tournament life. If I get called then im getting maximum value from the hand and hope villian doesnt suckout.

Just my two cents

Much better to bet half pot (as Hero did) and then shove any turn.

This way we pick up extra equity by folding out hands when the turn bricks and we rep high.

Villain is also going to be thinking of monsters under the bed and how he has a "nice stack size" right now.

Lets use that against him

sounds like you're playing above your limits...

interesting 1/2 think shove is best.
marc0s and bob would take my line.
and bob and thomas have the same reasons as me.
perhaps i will mix in the shove at this spots now from time to time,
it probably would have won me the pot.
this sounds scared.
i`m playing to win.
but true he is the only 1 that could really hurt my chip stack.

if it's the hand i'm looking at then lol at shoving flop..normal reg play though...

but i'm pretty pissed so prolly looking at a different hand

Having a 7500 stack at 150/300 we already have the win

We prolly are talking about the hand you saw, a237dd on 45Tdd. At least the hand is
against a reg, so I can see some kind of reasoning, against a fish it would be
huge mistake imo.

If I saw a competent reg overshoving into me on that board with those stack sizes my range for calling would be way ****ing tight. However, my range for calling a standard bet is definitely wider than my call range to a shove at this stage of the tourney and these stack sizes. Therefore just standard bet size works fine for hero. If someone overshoves fine, you are not folding. If he does fold fine. If he calls fine. Shoving forces him to call with a hand that has super equity and folds out all those hands with worse equity. Macros has got it nailed. For me shoving is borderline donkish, unless you are Wadzon whereby not shoving would be donkish.

Interesting...

I cant really argue with Bob and Macr0s since they are crushing every stake and im only crushing the micros so if they post any strat I will gladly take it.

My reasoning for shoving was about the same as Dmalloy's where is I would try to avoid taking a 60/40 here willingly due to icm considerations and also the fact that its a reg who can play the turn better then if it was a fish.

Maybe im just too used to missing these draws at cruscial spots like this and my line of thinking has become flawed as a result.

Anyway no doubt my money will always be going in as played, never folding to villians jam.

villain is a russian.
i wanted him to shove into me
my thought is that i`m far ahead of his shoving range on the flop.
ps:really interesting that a hand i posted tilted gets that much response.

Your only including your call range to a flop bet. Are you telling us here that you don't have a shoving range especially when the PFR is aggressive and is giving us a ton of fold equity?

Sorry Duncan but I strongly disagree with this statement.

The big stack is weapon we should use to consolidate our lead