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Old 04-14-2011, 04:46 AM   #76
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please dont knock me out in the 3s while you are on your challenge .
lol, what's ur SN? not sure if i can pay THAT much attention though

Ok played a little 3. session today ( traffic is so bad, i hate it ).

Still running very poor in the 6.50 ones ( 5/5/4/6/5 mostly crazy beats ) but was able to get some good cashes in the 3.40 ones.

so session 3 summary is:

21 sngs
profit: + 63.80
vpp: 60ish

So day 1 is probably over until i get crazy and do a 4th session and its been pretty rough.

177sngs ( not enough, but couldnt really help the traffic in any way )
profit: +57.30
VPP: 357.33

not sure im gonna update this hard all the time, but i felt like i should start proper. 57.30 doesnt seem to be much if i aim for 5k but if u saw how things were going engine wise im pretty happy to even be in the +
Not to imagine if i should start running like a human being in the 6.50s
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:18 AM   #77
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keep posting the updates, züri! and gl again!
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Old 04-14-2011, 05:13 PM   #78
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The methodology to answer #6 is to determine what is our chip value if we scoop, chop and lose, and then run those scenarios against a powerhouse hand, a medium hand, and a junk hand that can make a low, to determine if the play is anywhere near positive EV.

The methodology to answer #2 is to determine our chip value if everybody folds, assign that a percentage chance, then go through the exercise described above. It's a messy calc for sure, but there is a correct answer.

Yes, it's a lot of effort, but it's better than weak aphorisms.

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Old 04-14-2011, 05:35 PM   #79
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PS: Hi Everybody.
Hi. Missed you. Welcome back.

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Old 04-15-2011, 02:10 AM   #80
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Zuri since you think I run sooo good against you here are the all in hands we had against each other tonight. I had Aces on 2 of them and other 2 were flips

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|100/200 NL Hi/Lo (9 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): 3,545.00
BTN: 1,710.00
SB: 1,735.00
BB: 435.00
UTG: 1,395.00
MP: 1,935.00

Hero posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 100.00, BB posts BB 200.00

Pre Flop: (450.00) Hero has K 3 K 4

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3,520.00 and is all-in, fold, SB calls 1,610.00 and is all-in, fold

Flop: (3770.00, 2 players) 3 Q A

Turn: (3770.00, 2 players) K

River: (3770.00, 2 players) 9

SB shows T 5 7 A (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 48%, Flop 78%, Turn 29%)
Hero shows K 3 K 4 (Three of a Kind, Kings) (PreFlop 52%, Flop 22%, Turn 71%)
Hero wins 3,770.00

PokerStars - $3+$0.40|300/600 NL Hi/Lo (9 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 4,541.00
UTG: 7,315.00
Hero (MP): 6,815.00
CO: 4,990.00
BTN: 1,155.00
SB: 2,184.00

BB posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (1200.00) Hero has A 3 A 9

fold, Hero raises to 6,765.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, SB calls 1,834.00 and is all-in, fold

Flop: (5168.00, 2 players) 4 K K

Turn: (5168.00, 2 players) Q

River: (5168.00, 2 players) J

SB shows 9 3 A 8 (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 34%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A 3 A 9 (Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 66%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 5,168.00

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|50/100 NL Hi/Lo (9 max) - Omaha - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 2,385.00
MP: 900.00
MP+1: 980.00
Hero (CO): 1,200.00
BTN: 1,275.00
SB: 1,250.00
BB: 2,135.00
UTG: 2,520.00

SB posts SB 50.00, BB posts BB 100.00

Pre Flop: (150.00) Hero has A 2 A Q

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 100.00, Hero raises to 1,200.00 and is all-in, fold, SB raises to 1,250.00 and is all-in, fold, MP+1 calls 880.00 and is all-in

Flop: (3480.00, 3 players) J K 6

Turn: (3480.00, 3 players) K

River: (3480.00, 3 players) 6

SB shows K 2 A 3 (Three of a Kind, Kings) (PreFlop 33%, Flop 27%, Turn 78%)
Hero shows A 2 A Q (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (PreFlop 41%, Flop 56%, Turn 22%)
MP+1 shows J T 2 8 (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 16%, Turn 0%)
SB wins 3,480.00

PokerStars - $6+$0.50|200/400 NL Hi/Lo (9 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 11,597.00
MP: 3,168.00
CO: 5,219.00
BTN: 4,436.00
SB: 1,830.00
Hero (BB): 750.00

UTG posts ante 25.00, MP posts ante 25.00, CO posts ante 25.00, BTN posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 200.00, Hero posts BB 400.00

Pre Flop: (750.00) Hero has 4 8 J 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 1,200.00, Hero calls 325.00 and is all-in

Flop: (1600.00, 2 players) K 9 4

Turn: (1600.00, 2 players) T

River: (1600.00, 2 players) 5

SB shows Q 3 6 8 (High Card, King) (PreFlop 54%, Flop 37%, Turn 28%)
Hero shows 4 8 J 7 (One Pair, Fours) (PreFlop 46%, Flop 63%, Turn 72%)
Hero wins 1,600.00

BTW gl on your challenge and stop telling me im running good when Im down 30 buy ins on the day.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:27 AM   #81
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so i won a 3k chip pot in a 1.75 one and lost the rest?

U were saying in the chat after u lost to another guy on another table, that "pokerstars hates me, not ur fault".

1 min. later u busted me hitting that 2 outer K on the turn and i simply wrote "pokerstars loves me" just to show u, that there is other ppl running bad. then u got mad on a 3rd table after busting ( not vs me ) and spammed the observer telling me to go fk myself, because i was saying u run good vs me ( which i really didnt, just said "pokerstars loves me" ).
Not good manners there.
But whatever u claim that u like to trash talk, so i don't really mind.
Btw, ran horrible my first session. Last hand was the bubble of a 6 dollar one.
I shove AA24( 5k chips ) from the SB, guy ( 5.2k in chips ) calls from the BB with AQ87 and scooped me. Will post updates later.

See Ramon its just kinda annoying if u run very bad over 350 sngs in 2 days just to hear a guy calling himself the unluckiest player alive, just to hit a 2 outer against u 1 min later

but thx a lot for the gl wishes, i really need them at this point!

Edit wants to say, that i can't help it being up against ur AA all the time in a turbo format
where do u get these from?
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Old 04-15-2011, 03:11 AM   #82
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The reason why I got angry is because you said "Im just going from what I see" and "I have played with you enough" implying that I was lying about running bad. I never complained when you cracked my Aces as a big underdog and I never really typed anything directly to you until you made those comments after I believe I said something like " You have no idea how bad Im running" . Also please stop calling it a 2 outer when the chips got in preflop... where I was ahead. I have about a 5% roi this month, ran above EV 5 days in the last month, have lost 4 of the last 5 days in which I played SNGs and have won once in my last 50+ turbo 9 mans so yes by my standards I consider that running bad and I would not lie about it nor would I lie if I was running good and would be the 1st one to admit it if I was. Also I have you way above EV in my Database mind you its only 6900 hands which does not really mean much. That being said I have no reason not to believe you are running bad at the moment and I hope you can pull out of it.

Anyway I appologize for getting out of line with my language but poker can be frustrating at times which Im sure you are well aware of.

The hands were uploaded from my poker tracker.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:36 PM   #83
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why are you crying on a 200sng sample? wtf..
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:26 PM   #84
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zuri - im insanelee.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:56 PM   #85
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200 sng sample lol thats funny I played 120 just yesterday and I have played about 2000 in the last month in which I have run bad. Also are you not the guy who made his own post about a downswing in 18 man turbos and I believe that downswing was less than 200 games.

Hypocrite much
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:23 PM   #86
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200 sng sample lol thats funny I played 120 just yesterday and I have played about 2000 in the last month in which I have run bad. Also are you not the guy who made his own post about a downswing in 18 man turbos and I believe that downswing was less than 200 games.

Hypocrite much
hey smarty.. u said $6.5x50bi... I was -$600 in 1 day, wasn't posted 'cause the sample obv.
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:37 PM   #87
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Zuri good luck in your adventure without all of us. Also good luck trying to get any volume. As always I am just a little late to the party. I have 5 years of low low volume but and slightly down money. I learn how to make money and they ban us. FML
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:24 PM   #88
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nooooooooooooooooo
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:17 PM   #89
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sad times for us barbiaux
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:17 PM   #90
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I miss playing the 18-man SNG turbos. Now that I can no longer play. Be fair about my play. Did I suck? Was I O.K.? What did I do right/wrong? Be fair or nasty. I doubt anyone could make me feel worst about no more online poker.

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Old 04-17-2011, 09:26 PM   #91
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I miss playing the 18-man SNG turbos. Now that I can no longer play. Be fair about my play. Did I suck? Was I O.K.? What did I do right/wrong? Be fair or nasty. I doubt anyone could make me feel worst about no more online poker.

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lol i am curious what players thought about me as well....my user name on pokerstars is lindenwold. i had a big mouth
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:24 PM   #92
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lol i am curious what players thought about me as well....my user name on pokerstars is lindenwold. i had a big mouth
I had notes on you...solid player who went deep many times on the 1.10 limit nightly. Was that your game of choice?

I keep notes on players like Tgeezee...JKfocus...Barbiaux...Alyvescah...
Mattmatic...Koz1754

I loved the players who would talk chit at the tables after a badbeat or when they stacked someone, like
BobbytheBull...Slickdon...IamShane41

There were one or two others that were real nasty at the tables...SN I don't remember. Some dope from Flint, Mich or Maryland...played the 1.75 alot. Just a real pain in the azz all night long.
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:49 PM   #93
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I bet my note said. Don't call his all in cause he has AAxx
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:07 AM   #94
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I bet my note said. Don't call his all in cause he has AAxx
If I was on tilt for the day A23 was going in. Funny how PokerStars rewarded ACES 8 out of 10 times. The two times it lost...I had AA.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:19 AM   #95
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IN knockout tourneys I made so much money with AA's. Out of 100 times all in I was knocked out an average of 6 times and knocked out an average of 35 people, not to mention the chipstack advantage I got. I kept a spread sheet and tracked all of my AA's so I knew when it wasn't working anymore but I never got to that point and now I never will :sigh:
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:22 AM   #96
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Barbiaux...we played many times together. Do you feel that in Omaha 8o any hand that had an Ace-and any wheel card not a 2 (3-5) and pocket pair higher than TT was a big favorite to win agaisnt A23X...A23-9 (no card higher than a 9)...or even
A24Kds? Felt like Jacks or Queens would hold up alot of the times. Maybe I am on LifeTilt right now. JokeStars was famous for the badbeats when you are chipleader going agaisnt the short stack.

And lets not talk about 2345 crushing AA2Whatever.

So with that...what is the best hands to go to battle with?

Four cards to the six high st8...
AA with two wheel cards
AA with two broadway cards
AA XX whatever
A with two wheel cards
A with two broadway cards
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I had notes on you...solid player who went deep many times on the 1.10 limit nightly. Was that your game of choice?

I keep notes on players like Tgeezee...JKfocus...Barbiaux...Alyvescah...
Mattmatic...Koz1754

I loved the players who would talk chit at the tables after a badbeat or when they stacked someone, like
BobbytheBull...Slickdon...IamShane41

There were one or two others that were real nasty at the tables...SN I don't remember. Some dope from Flint, Mich or Maryland...played the 1.75 alot. Just a real pain in the azz all night long.
thank you sir..i havent played the 1.10 limit nightly in a while tho. hard to stay up that late anymore. kept telling myself i would play the nightly tournys soon, now the choice isn't there and i regret that i kept pushing it off. i was fine with just making enough to pay my bills and that is it. unfortunately i am screwed now. i liked tgeezee, he was a cool cat. i was strictly a pl omaha hi lo player. i got away from fixed limit because they only played 2 regular fixed o8 mtts under $6. i could only play no limit in the 18, 27 and 45 man sit n gos becuase imo to play a no limit o8 tourny, u have zero margin for error. cheers man, hopefully we'll play again.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:37 AM   #98
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haha borzi, i looked at my notes and eithen know i don't remember you without seeing ur avatar...my notes say and please dont take offense..

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Old 04-18-2011, 12:47 AM   #99
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I just started to truly learn the game about summer of 2010...so no I don't take offense. I was pushing way to early and often in PL and NL Omaha games. But if it was blind vs blind...any ACE would do agaisnt a tight player. Our stats r very alike over the last 90 days, in schedule tournaments...lol.
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I just started to truly learn the game about summer of 2010...so no I don't take offense. I was pushing way to early and often in PL and NL Omaha games. But if it was blind vs blind...any ACE would do agaisnt a tight player. Our stats r very alike over the last 90 days, in schedule tournaments...lol.
just because ur loose doesn't make you a bad player. to get me heated, you must be good. i really feel like in the last year i became a solid player and honestly i felt the money was there to be made whenever i wanted to make it. unfortunately i kept delaying going hard and now the option is not there. i did make final table in my very last tourny...and since i registered for 3 scoop satelites before the ban, i remained entered...and woke up at 2pm with a table open lol (thought i was dreaming when i kept hearing the chips at the table). i won a ticket and now im registered in the $10 omaha hi lo pl scoop event which goes down in may i think. doubt i'll be able to play it, but i am keeping my fingers crossed. it's funny how good you play when you release you'll never be able to play again.

we are both profitable players according to officialpokerrankings.com
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