aww angribob u should be polite when some1 keeps sayin hi to u!

sorry bro - I dont have visibility on my tables unless i'm in the hand

Hence I didnt know you were chatting with me

But hello hello!

btw my run good has officially ended


ping, ping, ping ... the sound of bob going busto table after table

I'm gonna take a few days off - have a good weekend everyone!

WOW

The problem here is there are the best players, no fish. It will be tought...

can you beat -300$ in 40 tourneys of 7&15$?
guess zuri and manndl will have to enjoy my presence soon *wave*

I played one today and saw some pretty bad play. I recognized maybe 9/18, so its was surprisingly decent. Lukro was one crazy mofo, shoving behind limps at 15/30 and 25/50.

Also, I ran really hot in a $15 today where I had aces like 6 times or something and had a maniac that would never fold. I think he called me with 6779 at 50/100 when I shoved 3500 or something.

someone that is running bad is allways welcome
but will move up soon.

no money in 3.50s either. Everyone is solid! Stars engine having fun esp. between games 106-127.



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but hey: if u happy with at least some dollars, ur welcome. Hope to have a better day myself today. See u m8

hey hey hey zuri...
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Poker Stars $13.89+$1.11 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t25 - 5 players - View hand 1644154
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BlackAdder-V (BTN): t2679 M = 3.70
Hero (SB): t8332 M = 11.49
944vanou944 (BB): t5449 M = 7.52
Juicy_J_93 (UTG): t8965 M = 12.37
jumarear (CO): t1575 M = 2.17

Pre Flop: (t725) Hero is SB with 4 Q K 9
3 folds, Hero raises to t8307 all in, 944vanou944 calls t5024 all in

Flop: (t10973) A 4 T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t10973) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t10973) J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t10973
Hero shows 4 Q K 9 (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
944vanou944 shows A 2 Q T (HI: a full house, Tens full of Aces)
944vanou944 wins t10973

I got flamed by vanou and as a result i got angry as well... Just wondering what you think about the Hand. I already did the maths after. I'll turn the chat of by now, because it really could tilt me getting flamed by a reg when i did the right play imo.

Being on the exact bubble, shoving any 2 looks right. He's supposed to be super folding hands like the one he has.

Sometimes, players like to burn money, you just gotta know who to pick on the "do not shove light" list. So far, I have brutalizer...

mhh if i'm not mistaken he's plus ev, when calling only top 3% vs a 99% pushing range. Considering he would call top 10%, it would be still +EV for me to push any four.

His call is even worse imo, because he has never seen me pushing that light before... (because i didn't^^)

i dont like the shove tbh..raise fold or fold

i don't care what some EV formula says, IMO is poor shove and tough but good call.

i had a horrible run mid-week in SNGs, but bounced back to run like god last day and a half

It's a horrid starting hand.

ProPokerTools rates K,Q,9,4 "97," meaning the hand is only better than about 3% of the possible Omaha-8 starting hands.

Buzz

mhh so you rather take care of a good karma then the (icm) maths?

I can find arguments to fold, because it's really one of the worst Hands you can start with, but even if I lose I'm not lost^^. But his call is always worse then me shoving any four imo.

Raise fold could get exploited pretty hard imo.

you play how you want to play, i'd rather play poker than be ruled totally by icm

not the best call, but a horrible shove imo... just move to russia lol

since you bring up ICM then i guess you are talking $EV and not cEV.

i think ICM shows its -$EV to shove if he is calling with a range of top 10% hand or better.

did you think he only has a top 10% hand 10% of the time???

I knew this hand was getting posted when it happened lol

If I were in your position Im folding but only because Ive already been burned by vanou in simular situations previously. Against the majority of opponents shoving is the best play imo however when making ICM plays like this the main thing you have to consider is does your opponent even understand or care about ICM and just because your opponent is a winning player does not necessarily mean he/she does.

Also LOL at this being a good call against super nit waltiph

hrhr

Yes i do.

No it doenst.

Yes i did!?


hrhr and i agree

come on....never folding in that spot to whoever

its not even that close about it bein a good or bad shove imo. and ye vanou is a good player but he likes to gamble. risk v reward..negative

i believe when 5 people are dealt cards that 1 person will be dealt a top 10% 37% of the time. i arrived at this through a simulation.

if we use the assumption that anyone with a top 10% hand would have opened, and yet everyone folded and hero(sb) does not have a top 10%, then we can assign bb a top 10% 37% of the time. this is the assumption i used for my ICM calculation.

an equity sim of hero's hand vs the top 10% shows the top 10% scoops 59% and hero scoops 24% and they split 17%, so

63% hero wins blinds & antes
21.8% hero gets scooped
8.8% hero scoops
6.3% hero/bb split

Hey waltiph, you are kinda chicky lately in the bvb spots like this

But I get your point and i agree with you. Usually i am not brave enough to make shoves like this but its a +EV shove (practically with any4) in a long term imo just this time you picked a wrong guy.

Juicy +1

Guys, notice that he was not playing the cards but his opponent/spot!

I would argue that the risk vs reward in calling is whats negative

I reviewed many hands lately, because i planned like playing 20k+ SnG's this year and decided I should play no more poker as AllInNTheDark would say but more icm conform.

I only wanted to check if i'm maybe overdoing and hopped to get better mathematical calculation of Buzz than:

But no offense