spend all day playin these and ran pretty good...quite a lot of soft play but gotta run good

billygstar 44 $10 $11 67% $450 Hot N/A PokerStars 2/3/2012 2/4/2012 E>=18 G=OHL SNG Only

Very nice, billy!

+1

these parts of a player's running are great esp in 18man. The downside can be pretty sick so all about volume as long as you are sure u can beat the game. I had times when i felt like i couldn't beat 3.50s anymore because the downers can be so long and brutal.

gogo and don't worry too much if bad things happen m8!

thanx guys

ye i can imagine bein on a bad run in these and smashin stuff

but i plan to just play them if i have spare screen space as it would be a tough grind for me playin em all the time

i think anything over 20% would be very good in these over a decent sample..even over 10 ok

trelskig beat me HU in the last 1

i'm beat....need bed

billygstar 47 $10 $11 67% $488

I have never seen Bid23Biz lose a flip ever. That being said he does play really well and his stats are sick in 18 mans.

a lot of clowns in the 18 manners nl8 just now

aye decent stats

never seen him play mtts..he must luv these 18 man turbos

bid23biz 3,415 $3 $12 26% $10,776

can a experienced sng player that knows about that icm stuff

3 shorts..felt like a fold but not sure

villain is a clown and was shoving every hand for a bit

nah villain is a good reg and posts here

Fold is good. Risking your entire stack to double up to 10k does not double your equity.

thanx broken....ye this is what i thought havin 3 shorties.

i dont think it would be the worst call ever to go for the win as i am ahead of his range but ye i tink ur right and fold is best.

I got like 17 bucks in my stars acct, and might just have to get back into these for the miracle run up(I hope).

Starting with 10 x 1.50s and goin from there.

gl

i received 20 buks for finishing 31st in this battle of the planet leaderboard last week. How much to u win for 1st?

I'm not so sure you're ahead of his range. His range is heavily weighted towards Aces. All his other hands, he is raise/calling or raise/folding. The only stack he's afraid of is yours. If the stacks were more even (say 4000 each), I can see him open jamming a wider range to take away the marginal 3-bet shoves that he would prefer to not bet/call.

Tbh, I don't think going for the win is a great strategy in these SNGs given their flat payout structure. The prizepool is $250 and your maximum equity is $100. In the hand you posted, I would guesstimate your equity to be around $35-$40. A 10.5k stack probably only has $60 in equity and you're better off waiting for a few opponents to go out or at least pick a better spot where you are the one pushing.

Calling is what I like to call ICM suicide. I think AK35 should be a fold too, but I probably call like 60% of the times in that spot because its such a pretty hand.

voila.

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i agree with everything u say appart from the fact i am not ahead of his range. I think that was his 4th shove after he got big cl. His range is pretty wide, althought tighten up a big coz he knows me and prolly doesnt want to give me a soft dbl and knows that i expect heis shoving wide.

i think i am callin though with ak25 and better

Aw, didn't read the part about the consecutive shoves. I still fold for the reasons stated above but it makes it more interesting.

Keep grinding. These games get pretty standard after a few thousand hands. GL!

In general I would lean towards a fold although if you knew how I was running today its a snap call.

I had AKT4 ds btw

what if the hand is (a2)k9?

elkrus (MP1): 2,910 (9.7 bb)
Juicy_J_93 (MP2): 7,757 (25.9 bb)
mandspoker40 (MP3): 5,273 (17.6 bb)
valetudinari (CO): 1,620 (5.4 bb)
torscotr06 (BTN): 1,878 (6.3 bb)
ironOne (SB): 2,535 (8.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 5,027 (16.8 bb)
looking at the players on the table i see 4 names that jump right into my eye (billy, jucy, torscotr and ironone). 2 of them are pretty short.
if you do not stop jucy, he will get bigger and bigger and apply more and more pressure towards all stacks (he actually already is doing that). fold equity is very high in that state of the game with so many shortstacks.
ofc a call can make you go bust and jucy is surely sailing to a nice 1st or 2nd place.
on the other side, a split pot in that situation could make him realise, that he can get in an awfull situation if he gets scooped, that he cant just roll over the table because there sits billy, who doesnt like to get pushed around and doesnt mind a gamble for the real big stack.
scooping the hand would totally turn around the situation and give billy the chance to steal blinds, hardcore exploit the bubble and post bubble situation.

what im trying to say is that getting rid of regs doesnt show in the icm calculations afaik.

broken_jia´s point of view is ofc a reasonable and good one. but that guy just shoved the 4th time in a very short amount of time if i get it right. im not saying it is a fistpump call or i would call 100%(maybe not even 50% of the time) but at some point you have to fight back. you r gonna see the guy for the rest of your session all over the tables. make him respect/hate you.
howlingmoon started to really get angry at me when i started to mess up our equity in the tourneys in the hope of getting him tighten up vs me or just getting him of the table because he was hell of a good player and winning against him was a coinflip at best for me.
then again considering my roi i might be all wrong...

Fold +1.

4th all in in a row from Juicy means he is a bit light and abusing his chiplead but he will be never light enough here that worth to play a flip vs. him considering the stacksizes and the fact its "only" 150/300 in 7-handed. Imo.

although i prefer plo8 mtts are way prefer nl8 in these 18 man turbos

last 2 days were brutal.
i had 16 allin with AAwx.lost 13 once 1/2 pot once 1/4 pot.
and i dont even wanna talk about AK2x........
is it possible that the last 15k s&g at o8 were just a fluke


Ps:i snap fold that hand against juicy,with that chipcount.
not even thinking much about it.

Thanks, gonna get at it tonight.

3 hnd @ 100/200 wow

Ahah played really poor the last hu vs billy, needed to piss so hard xD