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01-25-2012 , 08:49 PM
This guy is a machine, tougher than jkfocus considering the volume.
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01-26-2012 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool
Was doing a pretty huge HH review of my 18 mans and I think my early game is pretty shocking. Unless someone spews off their chips to me I'm usually blinding down to 1k by around 50/100.

Regs, what do you suggest, get active in the early stages or nit it up to push/fold ?
I wouldn't get crazy, and honestly Im a HUGE NIT in the early stages. That being said, it depends on your table and what not. Try taking hands deep vs fish early on and you might see an edge that other regs wont have, if you're playing optimally you're going to be picking up chips at ever blind level.

You used to be able to nit it up and push fold at the end, but unless you find a good game with weak players you kind of need to be more creative...

and run sick good at push folding at the end.

have you used sng wizard and done ICM math to perfect your late game play?
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01-26-2012 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by trelskig
I wouldn't get crazy, and honestly Im a HUGE NIT in the early stages. That being said, it depends on your table and what not. Try taking hands deep vs fish early on and you might see an edge that other regs wont have, if you're playing optimally you're going to be picking up chips at ever blind level.

You used to be able to nit it up and push fold at the end, but unless you find a good game with weak players you kind of need to be more creative...

and run sick good at push folding at the end.

have you used sng wizard and done ICM math to perfect your late game play?
Does the SNG wizard the ICM math for the O8 games? I thought its only for holdem.
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01-26-2012 , 12:45 PM
i think in the 10/20 and 15/30 blind-levels its never wrong to see some flops.
quite often i can take away pots on HHL or HHH flops, especially in position.
when 25/50 starts i tend to play a lot tighter, because raise/fold or limp/fold becomes too expensive. if i get good hands in late position i often start shoving already,
if my stack is at 1000 chips (20bb) or lower (if i didnt connect to the board during the 2 earlier levels).
this helps me to get a usefull stack in later levels (either by double up, or by folds)
and i get paid a lot more when i shove my premium-hands during 50/100.
i dont want to talk too much about my bubble- and itm-play,
but generally said i know which hands perform well against certain ranges,
and the rest is ICM and fold-equity (and a bit of feel).

that being said, i must ad that i never play more than 4 tables at a time.
usually i just play 1-2 tables beside an 8-game cash-table.
i could imagine that itd be too hard to try to see much flops early on,
if one plays 6-12 tables.
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01-26-2012 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HU4holes
that being said, i must ad that i never play more than 4 tables at a time.
usually i just play 1-2 tables beside an 8-game cash-table.
i could imagine that itd be too hard to try to see much flops early on,
if one plays 6-12 tables.
Damn i would fall asleep only playing 4 tables.
Depends on your definition of much but i'm not a nit in early while playing around 20 tables.
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01-26-2012 , 01:36 PM
i guess im just a dinosaur, im nearly 30 and i never played starcraft or such stuff.
although im too much of a perfectionist to masstable,
i hate to not know 100% whats going on at the tables and i dont use PT or HEM at all.
(i can handle up to 9 NLHE MTTs, but id get my arse handed over if i had to play more than 2-3 tables shorthanded)
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01-26-2012 , 02:06 PM
Never did such stuff either.
Yeah HM/TN help a lot and the fact the playerpool is that small either. I needed to find a way to reach a decent hourly.
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01-26-2012 , 02:33 PM
hey guys....just wondering whats a good roi for these over a decent sample size and whats the traffic like? Mostly regs?
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01-26-2012 , 02:49 PM
3,50$ 25%-30% ROI probably running 500-600 a day many regs but who cares many are bad.
7$ 20%-25% ROI 100-200 a day
15$ 15%-20% ROI 300-400 a day
at the 15$ it can get really reg invested.

u wanna juice up your MTT shedule?

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Originally Posted by HU4holes
i could imagine that itd be too hard to try to see much flops early on,
if one plays 6-12 tables.
i see many flops early on and i play 12-14 usally.
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01-26-2012 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by manndl
3,50$ 25%-30% ROI probably running 500-600 a day many regs but who cares many are bad.
7$ 20%-25% ROI 100-200 a day
15$ 15%-20% ROI 300-400 a day
at the 15$ it can get really reg invested.

u wanna juice up your MTT shedule?



i see many flops early on and i play 12-14 usally.
thanx mate...

half thinking about doing it some days so i dont have to do a full mtt session and mayb get a break from em
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01-26-2012 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
hey guys....just wondering whats a good roi for these over a decent sample size and whats the traffic like? Mostly regs?
I just hope you have chat for the first time wadzon calls your shove with 7 high
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01-26-2012 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
I just hope you have chat for the first time wadzon calls your shove with 7 high
lol....that russian busted me in the stud8 tcoop

is he worse than than the mtt russians? there are a few shockers that play the 22's and 33's

Oh and chat has come back to papa today

i'm trying to think who u r on stars? tell me pls
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01-26-2012 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
lol....that russian busted me in the stud8 tcoop

is he worse than than the mtt russians? there are a few shockers that play the 22's and 33's

Oh and chat has come back to papa today

i'm trying to think who u r on stars? tell me pls
lol he plays alright just dont shove on his BB light because hes not folding ever

Im Juicy_J_93 on Stars

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01-26-2012 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by manndl
3,50$ 25%-30% ROI probably running 500-600 a day many regs but who cares many are bad.
7$ 20%-25% ROI 100-200 a day
15$ 15%-20% ROI 300-400 a day
at the 15$ it can get really reg invested.
The volume numbers seem kinda high. I'm not around during the peakhours anymore, but I don't ever remember seeing more than 8 $15 NLO8s running per hour. That extrapolates to less than 100 total in a day. Unless you're including PLO8 as well which I don't know as I have that filtered out.
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01-26-2012 , 11:30 PM
yup plo8 included.but you are right probably more 150-200.
for some reason more are running in PL than NL at 15$
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Im Juicy_J_93 on Stars
why are u changing your avatar that often?
i liked the black guy
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01-27-2012 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by manndl
yup plo8 included.but you are right probably more 150-200.
for some reason more are running in PL than NL at 15$

why are u changing your avatar that often?
i liked the black guy
I was playing while high on mushrooms and the eyes on the guy tripped me out so I changed it.
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01-28-2012 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
Does anyone have any stats on brutalizer in 18 mans?
I only have SS and hes blocked on there. I know hes gotten a lot of sht about his play on here but Im actually of the imo that he plays fairly well and I would be surprised if his roi was less than 10 which is impressive considering his overall volume.
Ive got 3000 hands on him. He is running at -2.55BB and has stats of 38/18 for first 4 levels, than slowly steps it up (esp. PFR). his 3bet and squeeze is higher than ave and he rarely folds to 3 bet.

in short ~ fairly LAG but obviously knows what he is doing.
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01-31-2012 , 10:23 AM
sigh found my personal doom
bid23biz is destroying me
and having Angribob in 1/2 of my s&g is just
perhaps i should try a different game
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01-31-2012 , 10:37 AM
Sorry bro

Im done for the day now so play on play on!!
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01-31-2012 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by manndl
sigh found my personal doom bid23biz
very lucky he is... traded some punches with him, both verbally and on the felt
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01-31-2012 , 11:37 AM
Good news manndl!!!!!!!!!!!

Im planning to start a serious grind in february so there is a fish coming to donate you at the tables
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01-31-2012 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bakyka
Good news manndl!!!!!!!!!!!

Im planning to start a serious grind in february so there is a fish coming to donate you at the tables
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02-01-2012 , 07:31 PM
lol start for me.. 1 cash in 8 and that was 4th after havin cl teh whole way..been donked quite a lot and coolered

special mention to arpman...ur **** terrible
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02-01-2012 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
lol start for me.. 1 cash in 8 and that was 4th after havin cl teh whole way..been donked quite a lot and coolered

special mention to arpman...ur **** terrible
welcome to my world bud
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02-01-2012 , 10:40 PM
    Poker Stars, $13.89 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11766602

    Hero (CO): 1,610 (32.2 bb)
    JMMCO (BTN): 1,895 (37.9 bb)
    _nemiroff701 (SB): 1,640 (32.8 bb)
    viphamburg1 (BB): 2,138 (42.8 bb)
    brutalizer20 (UTG+2): 1,420 (28.4 bb)
    bad666dark (MP1): 1,490 (29.8 bb)
    grassedup (MP2): 2,107 (42.1 bb)
    Kery J (MP3): 1,200 (24 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 9 7 A
    2 folds, grassedup calls 50, Kery J calls 50, Hero calls 50, JMMCO raises to 1,895 and is all-in, 3 folds, Kery J calls 1,150 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Flop: (2,575) J 6 A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (2,575) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (2,575) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: 2,575 pot
    Final Board: J 6 A Q T
    JMMCO showed 7 8 8 9 and lost (-1,200 net)
    Kery J showed T 4 K K and won 2,575 (1,375 net)



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    welcome to my world bud
    no money in em really..every1's solid right?
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