he's like a lite version of wadzon. They really don't like folding their blinds, esp in ICM spots. Wadzon just doesn't like to fold period. We'd have 4 left and I'd shove from the SB (stacks are 2k me, 3k him, 1.5k, 1.5k in a 9-man at 100/200) and he'll call with pretty much 60% of his range. I'm talking KTT8, Q953, 2347, etc.

peloteros50 is better in that he doesn't call 60%, but he goes crazy with AXXX.

now u need to explain multi accounting. U posted in another thread under that name and said u were drobysh. u live at the belarus boarder then? Ha! Just found out what area u have to be living in. Coming!!!

Edit for the non 18man players: drobysh is a reg. in the same games wadzon is.

So popcorn time coming

yup. explanation needed til 2morrow the latest or this will go to stars and he can't suck out on me no more. wheee!

the way he plays poker i could see him being stupid enough to multi account and show this off on 2+2..

sry... I don't know English language and I use the translator and consequently, unfortunately, me doesn't reach (especially if you use reductions) all sense you written ((before I have understood the general sense of the message)) (which I have quoted). Here for the sake of such love messages even more stimulus has appeared call you any 4 into the account drobysh - we two communicate of year with it in Skype, but it doesn't prevent to accept and beat out to me it from game on the fifth place at four in prizes))

ps But he likes to drink and lose money... Therefore while he plays a limit 3,5 and we won't be crossed yet((

gg wadzon aahhh drobysh.
btw: how would u like to get called? this clearly disgusts me. gotta call swissair now for some charter to the belarus boarder.

I am given by pleasure your inadequacy)) write still... And it is more about that that you think of me.)) wait call any 4 and write please here... I with pleasure will read

MMA for rollz?

It just that case when because of the translator I haven't understood anything. But as I have understood to you my answer isn't too necessary. I fish ((I Wait for you behind tables))
All right... I write Something not on a theme much. Only today has learned about this topic (someone in a chat on pokerstars has written about it). If that - I in a theme

see wazdon:

i doubt that anyone runs worse then me ( i know no regular does ) in the Omaha8 18 man turbos ( basically in all games on stars but that would go to far ).
I also know that if im all in against you, juicy or broken i'll get scooped. no matter how far i might be ahead and no matter how many times we repeat the matchup.
i have allready accepted this and i know that i need to work 5 times harder then everyone else cause for some reason it's the way it is, BUT

broken and juicy dont have another option and make the right plays and stars just helps em out. You make a stupid play and they let u win anyway. I don't know why but it's the way it is.

I hate whining all the time too, but if u played with my account: trust me your roll would be gone in 1 day.

That said: if you, who somewhat robs me ingame all the time, even cheats by multi accounting that makes me wanna throw up and i will report this to stars and hope u get banned for it.

P.S. I don't care if u understand what im saying or not u will have the time to learn the language when they make u stop cheating.

Report to Stars and let them deal with it. I haven't seen anything near enough to support an accusation, but if you're concerned, PS has more info available.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...l#post14320563

post: #11305

http://pokerprolabs.com/wadzon/PokerStars

http://pokerprolabs.com/drobysh/PokerStars

wadzon is from Russia
drobysh is from Belarus

maybe he just lives at the boarder and has an account at his girlfriends place. who knows.

The guy writing here as wadzon declared himself as drobysh in that other thread.

Then he replies to my post about him with an "hehe" and tells us that someone told him about the posts in here about him ingame in the chat ( so he was clearly playing the wadzon one ).

How can a guy be drobysh and wadzon at the same time? right: he forgot about his post over 2 years ago and is now screwed ( since all his posts are quoted and he can't delete them ).

Is it obv enough now?

A claim to be wadzon is whatevs. Could be a gimmick account messing with you. Still, since he says he knows him, same advice applies. Let PS know your concerns and do what they do.

I'm not sure what's going on here. (I don't know if I understand or not). Sounds like you're accusing someone of cheating. That's a serious charge, one that, even if untrue, tends to do irreparable damage to someone's reputation.

Beware of bearing false witness.

And at any rate, this forum is not the appropriate place for you to make accusations.

Rather easily. Lots of individuals use one screen name in one place and another screen name in another. There's nothing wrong with that, so far as I know. Perhaps there's an improper way to do that.

However, you haven't proven he's somehow using multiple screen names improperly.

If you think he has, then report him to the appropriate authority. This forum is not the appropriate authority.

I'm not sure what you think is obvious. Seems like wadzon and drobysh are the same person. However, whether or not any cheating occurred is not obvious (at least to me).

As Leroy2DaBeroy has already advised you,

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Report to Stars and let them deal with it. I haven't seen anything near enough to support an accusation, but if you're concerned, PS has more info available.

Keep your accusations off this forum, please.

Thank you.

Buzz
as moderator

Lol be more ridiculous zuri. Literally don't think you could try harder. Posting stuff like this and then following it up with cheating accusations just looks awful.

If you think there is cheating/multi-accounting then email stars, give them all info you have, and let them handle it. Don't blast a guy on a forum when you don't have enough info to be 100% sure. Stars does a great job in this department, let them handle it.

ok ok:

i was very tired and should not have whined. Following the accusations there really seems strange.

I'm also aware that u need to be 100% sure before u accuse someone of doing something not legit.

Since wadzon posted in here i wanted to give him a chance to explain himself BEFORE writing to stars. I don't feel like the poker police and therefor think you could talk to ppl first ( even if it's open to everyone to see the conversation which keeps a potential cheater from coming up with some bs ).

HE could have answered:"well drobysh is my brother who lives in belarus and we share one 2+2 account". I could then write stars to check out if that's true or not.
But he didn't..he said that someone ingame mentioned about that thread and about the on going talk about wadzon which clearly shows that he has played under the name wadzon at that point ( why would anyone mention a thread to drobysh cause wadzon is involved? ).

@ Buzz:

"Lots of individuals use one screen name in one place and another screen name in another. There's nothing wrong with that, so far as I know."

- there is no problem with using a different name on 2+2 then u do on a pokersite as long as the name u use doesn't appear in the exact same games as the other ones does. why would a guy use a 2+2 name of a russian 18man Omaha8 turbo sng regular to later declare himself as a regular from belarus who grinds the exact same games but then all of a sudden when other ppl talk about the russian guy, appear trying to explain himself?

I appreciate the responds and i will take ur advice and write directly to stars the next time ( even though i feel the other regs have a right to know who they are playing against before stars finishes the investigation ).

P.S. Both don't speak any english ( just russian in the chat and declared their engl was bad in the past ),
both have the same style of playing the game.
i have never seen them in the same game even though they both grind long hours.

obv the 3 ppl responding can't know this since they never play in these games ( or sharkzilla at least doesn't since these 2 showed up ) but all the regulars looking for valid information on here can. Even though u don't want me to post these things i believe that everyone can come with an own conclusion on the issue if you provide information that is open to everyone anyway.

after all i believe im not guessing that he is multi accounting, but i see that as fact with the information given and while it might take a while for stars to be 100% sure of this ( checking out all the stats and so on i guess ) ppl reading this board have an advantage of knowing this before he/they get banned which is the beauty of 2+2 imho.

I don't think that's true.

My point is this forum is not the place for accusations of cheating, even if you feel 100% sure you have been cheated.

If you think someone is cheating, then please make your accusation directly to the site.

It is not your "right" to accuse someone of cheating on this forum. It is not the responsibility of anyone accused here to make his defense here.

You're missing the whole point. Nobody is obliged to reply to an accusation of committing a crime on this forum. It is improper for anyone to accuse anyone else of committing a crime on this forum.

Then by your own admission you have no evidence of a crime.

You're about a hair away from getting banned yourself for making accusations after having been directed not to do so.

Please stop this discussion immediately. Please do not reply.

Buzz
as moderator

last reply. if u feel like banning me for this: so be it.
To answer the quoted sentence:

it doesn't matter if someone plays in the same sng with 2 accounts or just uses 2 accounts in general to make it a crime.
Anyone can take advantage of things such as the "Battle of the planets"
( sng leaderboard on stars ) by using 2 accounts. The person can play 1 set over 100 with one account and have another shot for the low orbit ( the first 5 sets of 20 sngs u play a week ) with the other account which is a clear disadvantage to anyone else and therefor a crime.

P.S. i remember a lot of cheating scandals going on in the online poker world being exposed on 2+2. That's what made clueless about the right on here to say the things i did. I apologize for this and won't do it again.

Take it back. He is rather lucky than good.

Now confirmed.

Double BOP Week! The games are gonna be very live during that time.

GL guys, terrible time for me to take a vacation

Good to know! Its comming about in next week (December 11-17).

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/prom...iversary/botp/

Awesom promotion with the target scores!

Can any SNG regs say how possible/difficult those target scores are? Looks like you'd need to best last weeks to scores by like 20% which seems extremely hard.

The high target for Mercury, Mars (maybe even for Venus) is doable with a decent run IMO.
The low seems hard for every division.
But maybe somebody can confute me.

+ I guess the field will be much more stronger as usual so... I am starting to pray for the upswing

Your best bet are the 9 man non-turbo NLO8 KOs. The $1.50s, $3.50s and $7s are all beatable if you play a reasonable number of tables (I wouldnt go more than 8-9). The $15s are tougher since there are more regs but still doable. Its not as hard as it seems since the variance in O8 games are much lower than NLHoldem and we probably have a much better shot than they do. I actually think with more regs, it'll be tougher to get a higher score unless you gave select like crazy.

The best advice I'd give is to stay away from the turbo games. Oh and also, at the $1 level, there are 27 and 18 man non-turbos which run like 10 times a day. If I had the option of playing 20 of those, I think my chances are of getting a top 10 score would be pretty good.