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Originally Posted by iamtheone69
While I understand your points completely, why wouldn't I want to isolate a hand like A25x, or maybe even A2xx, or even 234x?
I am just introducing the possibility that it's better to not try to isolate with your actual hand. If you think about all the hands you could have here, you are not that close to the top of your range.
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Originally Posted by iamtheone69
I think your points about the stack size of big blind is spot on, but I do think it's incorrect not to reraise UTG+1. This hand is just about worthless in a multiway pot. I think we are playing way too passive if we are flatting here and allowing 55, A2, and wrap type hands to continue.
So here we just disagree. I think it's nice to have a hand this strong in the flatting range. It's not worthless at all, as there are 8 great cards for us (2,6,J). You are a bit stuck on the thought that you need to protect your hand. What if your hand is just not strong enough to be protected at this depth?
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Originally Posted by iamtheone69
Perhaps it's just a fold once BB cold calls, and UTG+1 ships. I'm a coin flip against A234. I have had money in worse before, but so many other hands I will be dominating against this type of lead on the flop. It is a gross spot to be in, I think it's just tough that the set of jacks just called on the flop forcing me to make a decision for his whole stack. I didn't just flat. I read weakness and shipped with (in worst case scenario, 38% equity) on the side pot. Please keep the comments coming. He literally took 45 seconds to call on the flop after I went all in.
Perhaps it indeed is a fold once cold called and shoved. Or then they both have A2+draw and you feel silly.