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Originally Posted by lotuspod2
Too much focus on cEV and not enough on ICM for the flop. Pre I actually agree with amok for once, calling is the simple and best option here.
It's hard to comment on ICM without even knowing how far we are from the money, what the prize structure is etc. When commenting a tournament hand and I use the term "cEV", I use it because I want to underline it's not the same as EV, i.e. I am only saying that the play wins chips, not that it's necessarily a winning play in every stage of a tournament.
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Originally Posted by lotuspod2
Calling flop feels like chasing a 6c or maybe even Ac, because there's a pretty high chance of villain cbetting turn or at least river. This isn't a cash game lol
No part of this makes any sense. It doesn't matter if it's a tournament or a cash game, there is a part in your range that wants to call. I do not know where the assumption that villain barrels a lot comes from. Anyway, if we think he barrels too much, we obviously don't fold.
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
We only have 1 psb left behind if we call flop. I know there's not that much value in raising but villain can runner runner a lo or boat, and check behind on turns when he thinks he has no fe to raise.
Thats why I think I prefer xr to call. villain can pretty much play perfectly on turn, we won't always know whether to lead or not. Maybe we even get heroed by some strange hands.
You are afraid that against a call he plays perfectly. I'm pretty sure that it's much easier for him to play perfectly against a raise. We do have some kind of low back up, although of course it would be much better to have A237 with a 7-high flush.
The problem comes from doing things that reveal your hand, like for example leading the turn. I wouldn't have even thought about doing that if you didn't mention it. So yes, now if he wants to check and draw for free to his low, he can do it. It's not the end of the world.
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
As for squeeze.. our hand plays better hu than multiway, that part is not complicated. Squeezing can make our hand stronger and there is enough money in the pot to compensate for when we iso one opponent. I think if hero is not thinking about squeezing here he is missing out on a compelling line.
Yes, when the stars align you get it in close to 50-50. But what do I know about these games, maybe they just simply overfold to such squeezes.