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Venetian Vegas: FL /16, half kill, bb w/ kill button Venetian Vegas: FL /16, half kill, bb w/ kill button

03-10-2010 , 04:59 PM
Normal semi passive game at the Venetian casino in good ole las Vegas

hero in bb with the kill with A46T

there are three limps and a complete from sb, hero uses his option and raises (half kill makes it $12/24 limit btw)

everyone calls, flop A26

hero checks, utg checks, utg1 bets, folds to hero who flats, utg calls too

turn 2

hero checks, utg checks(quick history, male old,very spewy plays a ton of hands and on most occasions very passive post flop), utg2 bets again (quick history, player is a lady well known Hilo player, old, wears shades always, a lot of unnessary jewelry,IMO she is a good player better than average but does sometimes show up with a hand that makes no sense)

now action on hero, hero is in the pot $36 so far, and facing a $24 bet and most likely at least another $24 bet on river
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03-10-2010 , 05:26 PM
check your option.

c/c flop.

c/f turn.
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03-10-2010 , 06:20 PM
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hero is in the pot $36 so far,
This is a bad way to think - money in the pot does not belong to anyone - you need to forget it was ever your money.

Consider these two situations imagining that hero is somehow faced with exactly the same descion on the river and hero has to decide to call or not:

a) pot = $100 hero put in $50
b) pot = $100 hero put in $10

would you be more likely to call in a) than b)? If so then you should think about why this is.....
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03-10-2010 , 08:10 PM
why raise your option then not fire the flop?
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03-10-2010 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
This is a bad way to think - money in the pot does not belong to anyone - you need to forget it was ever your money.

Consider these two situations imagining that hero is somehow faced with exactly the same descion on the river and hero has to decide to call or not:

a) pot = $100 hero put in $50
b) pot = $100 hero put in $10

would you be more likely to call in a) than b)? If so then you should think about why this is.....
I've been playing for 30 hours str8, can someone explain this to me like your explaining it to a 5 year old, thx
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03-10-2010 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Angribob
Consider these two situations imagining that hero is somehow faced with exactly the same descion on the river and hero has to decide to call or not:

a) pot = $100 hero put in $50
b) pot = $100 hero put in $10

would you be more likely to call in a) than b)? If so then you should think about why this is.....

Because there's a bigger field to beat in pot (b). You don't really think 8 players are all going put in $10 and then open-fold on the river do you?
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03-10-2010 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by he11othere
I've been playing for 30 hours str8, can someone explain this to me like your explaining it to a 5 year old, thx
Once the money's in the pot, it's not yours. It doesn't matter how it got there; the fact that this money was yours at the start of your hand doesn't change your future decisions in any way.
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03-10-2010 , 09:19 PM
If he's been gambling for 30 hours straight then giving two different answers both of which might seem correct could be confusing
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03-10-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by prodonkey
why raise your option then not fire the flop?
This.
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03-10-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by howzit
check your option.

c/c flop.

c/f turn.
+1

And, I'm only c/c one bet on the flop----and even that is somewhat questionable.

OP: This is a horrible flop for your hand in a 5-way pot. The low is there (so chop that pot in half) your A's up can easily be overturned by a better A's up, and any 3,4 or 5 will bring a straight. There's nothing wrong w/raising from the BB w/this type of hand, but, you're looking to nail the thing, and this ain't it.

Last edited by Rush17; 03-10-2010 at 10:02 PM.
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03-11-2010 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by he11othere
I've been playing for 30 hours str8, can someone explain this to me like your explaining it to a 5 year old, thx
imagine your mommy and daddy gave you $1000 to run a lemonade stand. so you throw $36 into it hoping you get clients. but then you find out that you have to spend another $48 to buy sweeter lemons because your competetion found better lemons than you. then you realize that the $48 to buy the better lemons won't break you even because you find that even if you get more customers, the increased competetion means the price you get to recoup your initial investment is even cheaper! you can't recoup the $36 because the price of lemonade on the street now sells for $1!!!!!

instead of buying $48 dollars of awesome lemons, you decide to close shop and cut your $36 of initial investment rather than buy another $48 of awesome lemons and then sell a cup of good lemonada $1 a cup in a neighborhood of 20 people.


in other words, buy office chairs and fk the copier.
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03-11-2010 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by howzit
imagine your mommy and daddy gave you $1000 to run a lemonade stand. so you throw $36 into it hoping you get clients. but then you find out that you have to spend another $48 to buy sweeter lemons because your competetion found better lemons than you. then you realize that the $48 to buy the better lemons won't break you even because you find that even if you get more customers, the increased competetion means the price you get to recoup your initial investment is even cheaper! you can't recoup the $36 because the price of lemonade on the street now sells for $1!!!!!

instead of buying $48 dollars of awesome lemons, you decide to close shop and cut your $36 of initial investment rather than buy another $48 of awesome lemons and then sell a cup of good lemonada $1 a cup in a neighborhood of 20 people.


in other words, buy office chairs and fk the copier.
Best post of 2010 so far?
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03-11-2010 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rush17
+1

And, I'm only c/c one bet on the flop----and even that is somewhat questionable.

OP: This is a horrible flop for your hand in a 5-way pot. The low is there (so chop that pot in half) your A's up can easily be overturned by a better A's up, and any 3,4 or 5 will bring a straight. There's nothing wrong w/raising from the BB w/this type of hand, but, you're looking to nail the thing, and this ain't it.
I really love this response, really spoke to my heart, I feel it has changed me as a player on multiple levels

note: drunk and high at strip club, managed to get a 30 min nap before going to revolver which had lady drinks free to midnight, my boy and I got a # and if you knew him you would know that's epic, Vegas say more?
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03-11-2010 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by howzit
imagine your mommy and daddy gave you $1000 to run a lemonade stand. so you throw $36 into it hoping you get clients. but then you find out that you have to spend another $48 to buy sweeter lemons because your competetion found better lemons than you. then you realize that the $48 to buy the better lemons won't break you even because you find that even if you get more customers, the increased competetion means the price you get to recoup your initial investment is even cheaper! you can't recoup the $36 because the price of lemonade on the street now sells for $1!!!!!

instead of buying $48 dollars of awesome lemons, you decide to close shop and cut your $36 of initial investment rather than buy another $48 of awesome lemons and then sell a cup of good lemonada $1 a cup in a neighborhood of 20 people.


in other words, buy office chairs and fk the copier.
this makes sense too, when I was playing today I was kinda out of my roll, I know how to play and the casino was running a promotion of max $2 rake, ended up a dime after 2 sessions, sure beats there $4/8 with max rake of $4
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03-11-2010 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ichbin
Best post of 2010 so far?
I don't even think that honor is up for consideration any longer.

Unless best post and best thread are separate awards. It was a good post.
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03-11-2010 , 02:51 PM
op w/e happened to your asian fiancé hu was no stranger 2 bak door bonanza?
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