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01-24-2010 , 09:15 AM
When I joined the table villain already had more than 9 buyins. He raised all of the first 12 hands preflop. After around 80 hands I have him tracked at 56/41/2.5.

2 pairs should be better than his holding most of the time and it's hard to figure his cards. How should I have played this?


$25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo - 5 players

SB: $67.58
BB: $264.32
UTG: $24.75
Hero (CO): $25.60
BTN: $29.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 7 A 3 9
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) 9 3 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB folds, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.13, BB calls $7.13

River: ($21.76) 6 (2 players)
BB instantly bets $17.50, Hero ...
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01-24-2010 , 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnOmahaBeach
When I joined the table villain already had more than 9 buyins. He raised all of the first 12 hands preflop. After around 80 hands I have him tracked at 56/41/2.5.

2 pairs should be better than his holding most of the time and it's hard to figure his cards. How should I have played this?


$25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo - 5 players

SB: $67.58
BB: $264.32
UTG: $24.75
Hero (CO): $25.60
BTN: $29.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 7 A 3 9
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) 9 3 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB folds, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.13, BB calls $7.13

River: ($21.76) 6 (2 players)
BB instantly bets $17.50, Hero ...
Not impossible for BB to have 45YZ, I suppose. Not very likely, but not impossible.

Looks a lot like he was calling hoping to bet a scare card on the river. (You're not likely to have 45YZ either, and Villain knows that).

What's with the "tell"? Does he want you to think he has 45YZ, or does he think betting this way (giving a tell) will lead you to believe he's trying to deceive you?

Villain did raise pre-flop. He might have A4YZ, the one way nuts, or he might just have AAYZ. Hard to say. Be a bummer if Villain has 45YZ, but I'd take the chance. More likely he has A4YZ, the one way nuts for low.

I'd call. See what's up. (You could scoop, split, or get scooped). I'd expect usually a split.

Buzz
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01-24-2010 , 10:41 AM
On the flop and the turn you are representing a better hand than you really have. I think you have to look him up at the end, or else you give him license to push you all over the place.

Checking the flop to see how much he bets might have given you more options (to check-raise him if he makes a smallish bet, for example, to try to get better control of the situation.)

But as played I think you call for the split.
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07-24-2016 , 01:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SexOnOmahaBeach
When I joined the table villain already had more than 9 buyins. He raised all of the first 12 hands preflop. After around 80 hands I have him tracked at 56/41/2.5.

2 pairs should be better than his holding most of the time and it's hard to figure his cards. How should I have played this?


$25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo - 5 players

SB: $67.58
BB: $264.32
UTG: $24.75
Hero (CO): $25.60
BTN: $29.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 7 A 3 9
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) 9 3 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB folds, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.13, BB calls $7.13

River: ($21.76) 6 (2 players)
BB instantly bets $17.50, Hero ...
What did he have? I think A4xx is pretty likely here?

Also, when you say 56/41/2.5, I'm guessing it's VPIP/PFR/Aggression factor, is that right??
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07-24-2016 , 10:50 AM
Super obvious call, so the only reason for this thread to exist must be that OP called and got scooped.
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07-24-2016 , 11:16 AM
Oh and flop bet is good/obvious (planning to fold to a raise), on the turn I don't like your sizing as I'm not sure you can fold to a raise. Betting $5 leaves a pot sized bet to the river.
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07-24-2016 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
Super obvious call, so the only reason for this thread to exist must be that OP called and got scooped.
The last time "SexOnOmahaBeach" posted in this forum was 02:38 PM, 04-10-2012. That was over four years ago. This particular thread is over six years old,
before I started labeling pot-limit threads with .

Buzz
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07-24-2016 , 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
The last time "SexOnOmahaBeach" posted in this forum was 02:38 PM, 04-10-2012. That was over four years ago. This particular thread is over six years old,
before I started labeling pot-limit threads with .

Buzz
Dang, didn't notice that.
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07-25-2016 , 11:08 AM
What a bump lol
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08-02-2016 , 11:52 PM
Amok bumpin ancient breads like it aint no thing
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08-03-2016 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
Amok bumpin ancient breads like it aint no thing
I didn't though.
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09-16-2016 , 08:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amok
Super obvious call, so the only reason for this thread to exist must be that OP called and got scooped.
LOL! Yep super obvious call when he turns over A45x and scoops you, that's not an auto call buddy
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09-17-2016 , 02:49 AM
Don't limp pre.

As for the gameplay, I think you have to call river. Someone playing 56 have more hi hands than most and he'd have to have exactly 45 to scoop you in this spot. There simply isn't enough combos of that given how big you bet flop.

I imagine he had 78 or some kind of cheese that found a split somehow.
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09-17-2016 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lautokastar
LOL! Yep super obvious call when he turns over A45x and scoops you, that's not an auto call buddy
LOL! Yes, that does happen sometimes. Super obvious auto fist pump call buddyboy.
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09-19-2016 , 07:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amok
LOL! Yes, that does happen sometimes. Super obvious auto fist pump call buddyboy.
It happens more than you think. He is never scooping and will be lucky to get half, otherwise getting scooped so trust me when I say it's not an auto call
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09-19-2016 , 09:59 AM
So it's a think-call because you get scooped sometimes? Makes sense.
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09-26-2016 , 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amok
So it's a think-call because you get scooped sometimes? Makes sense.
That made no sense at all
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09-26-2016 , 10:38 PM
I would assume villain has 87, so would think until I made sure A7 was likely good a lot of the time and then I'd make the obvious call.

Pre. seems the worst street against an any4 villain.
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