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Originally Posted by the pleasure
if we are in a really loose table where 3-4+ players are seeing flops. if we 3-bet with A2xx( not suited) is that a leak?
Not necessarily.
I think it depends on how your opponents will react.
In my opinion, it's not so much how loose your opponents are, as how much information they are able to assimilate.
If your 3-bet screams to your opponents, "I probably have an ace-deuce," then intelligent opponents will know when you do and when you don't have an ace-deuce.
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I mean I thought raising the pot, if it doesn't thin out the field, it'll just put more money in it for us to win?
If you win...
...But if you lose, more of your money will be in the pot for you to lose.
...And if you thin the field, then there will be fewer opponents to pay you off on subsequent betting rounds when you do end up winning.
So, although you do increase your chances of winning with fewer players, you don't necessarily end up with more money by knocking out opponents.
Sometimes it's good to knock out opponents, but sometimes it isn't. I believe that's truer in Omaha-8 than it is in Texas hold 'em.
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I read in Zees book that in loose tables raising with A2xx will only increase volatility to your bankroll.
I believe that is generally true. I suppose it depends, among other factors, on how your opponents react to your raise... but I think it's generally true.
Posters come to this forum wondering
• with what do I fold?
• with what do I merely call?
• with what do I raise?
• with what do I re-raise?
But poker (including Omaha-8 poker) is not that simple. What you should do on the first betting round, in my opinion, depends more on how your opponents will react than on the particular starting cards you are dealt.
Should you 3-bet with A2XY?
I think sometimes yes and sometimes no.
I think 3-betting probably works better with some groups of opponents than others.
Try it and see.
Buzz