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Originally Posted by the pleasure
I mean, I am sure oppoenents are playing 2-3xx and some A5/6xx hands and whatnot(mediocre hands). but if the table has been pretty loose and wanting to see flops, im just not sure how to handle 3-bets with hands like the ones I posted above without any suited As
We need to know how many opponents are seated at the table (and thus dealt cards). And then we need to know how many of these opponents who are dealt cards are seeing the flop.
In other words, are four or five out of nine seeing the flop, or are four or five out of six seeing the flop?
And then are the four or five who are seeing the flop the same four or five each time, or do all your opponents see the flop with about the same frequency?
And what stakes are you playing?
You'll probably do better by posting a few hand histories, getting feed-back, and making your own generalizations than asking us to make generalizations for you.
In general, when there's a lot of pre-flop multiple betting, you're either playing at a table with at least some (if not all) opponents who want to gamble - or you're playing at a table with opponents who like to intimidate others and/or who think they gain an edge by raising pre-flop. (It's a tactic that, IMO, works better at a Texas hold 'em table or an Omaha-high table than it works at an Omaha-8 table).
When you play at a table with opponents who gamble, then you may be forced to gamble too. If that doesn't suit you, then find another table with different opponents.
I don't think you can afford to allow yourself to be intimidated.
• 1. If your opponents think you'll fold if raised, then they'll raise. If they find they can intimidate you, then they're likely to try to intimidate you.
• 2. IMO Hero doesn't play properly when he feels intimidated. You want to be the one doing the intimidation, rather than the one being intimidated.
• 3. Don't ever play "scared." Don't buy in for more than you can easily afford to lose. Don't bring more money to a game than you can easily afford to lose.
In general, in a game where four or five of my opponents see the flop for multiple bets pre-flop, depending somewhat on which four or five opponents are seeing the flop, all the hands you've posted are good enough for me to see the flop, and more or less regardless of the number of bets... but then I'm not a beginner.
What's my advice to a beginner in the situation you have described?...
1. You can't allow yourself to be intimidated. If you think your opponents are raising to intimidate you, and it their tactic is working, then you should quit the table.
2. But if the multiple bets are not being made to intimidate you, then when you're confused, play more tightly and concentrate on watching and learning. In other words, fold these hands and watch and learn.
3. The game should be fun. If its not, either find a table that
is fun or do something else.
Good luck.
Buzz