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12-12-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
iiimJEEESUS: raises $8 to $12
Hanamichi23: calls $12
kuhns89: calls $10
EggBall: raises $16 to $28
iiimJEEESUS: raises $391.50 to $419.50 and is all-in
Hanamichi23: folds
kuhns89: raises $319.85 to $739.35 and is all-in

Help me understand then, what bet is kuhns' reraise all in here considered?
It's a standard "smooth isolator"

Trademarked here first
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12-12-2010 , 11:52 PM
Thanks Pred, now that song will be in my head all night. I was just about to go to sleep too. aslkhasklhaslkh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESqcg6jPCA

There, now maybe someone else will be in misery with me.

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12-13-2010 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
iiimJEEESUS: raises $8 to $12
Hanamichi23: calls $12
kuhns89: calls $10
EggBall: raises $16 to $28
iiimJEEESUS: raises $391.50 to $419.50 and is all-in
Hanamichi23: folds
kuhns89: raises $319.85 to $739.35 and is all-in

Help me understand then, what bet is kuhns' reraise all in here considered?
Ah, you mean this hand
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12-13-2010 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
iiimJEEESUS: raises $8 to $12
Hanamichi23: calls $12
kuhns89: calls $10
EggBall: raises $16 to $28
iiimJEEESUS: raises $391.50 to $419.50 and is all-in
Hanamichi23: folds
kuhns89: raises $319.85 to $739.35 and is all-in

Help me understand then, what bet is kuhns' reraise all in here considered?
spew
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12-13-2010 , 10:39 AM
wrong thread

Last edited by pokerchef12; 12-13-2010 at 10:46 AM. Reason: wtf i must be drunked, this was a ugly misspost
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12-14-2010 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kittens
Love it how people shove $400 or $600 pre with AKKx AQQx hands. Someone asked a while ago where all the money came from for the O8 economy..
well considering the players i was up against akk4 is a monster 3 handed there. thats just a standard hand. and akk4 is far different than akkx

And as far as isolating goes you can't isolate against a player who never folds a hand (egg).

Last edited by iiimjeeesus; 12-14-2010 at 03:39 AM.
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12-14-2010 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kittens
A new guy has shown up on stars today, redskin 134 (Santiago). I've never seen the name before but he sits at all 25c/50c and 50c/1 tables and plays a near-perfect game. He must have extensive play experience from another site. Does anyone recognize the name?
Redskin134 is also sloqhay a VERY solid o8 player
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12-14-2010 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by avaholic
I thought about not even posting this, but decided I would anyway.

First, let me say I am not a paranoid person, or a conspiracy theorist, far from it. However, with the reports of collusion and cheating that have come out recently, I am a little more cautious online than I used to be. With that said, I was curious about a couple players in the Rush player pool. I would like to say that I am not accusing them of cheating, but just wanted to see if anyone else had noticed what I have.

There are two players, both from Italy, under the screennames of Nela68 and LittleBigNela. When I have played with either of these two players, both have been on at the same time, both have sat out about the same time, and both have left the lobby at about the same time. I have a relatively small sample of hands, but both have very similar stats.

I just wanted to see if anyone else who plays Rush has noticed this. I apologize if I am wasting anyone's time and if this thread needs to be deleted, than please do so. Again, I am not accusing these players of cheating, but was just wondering if anyone else had more history with them than I did. There may not be much of an edge attempting to collude in Rush anyway, but it still makes me worried. There have been times when I'm at the table with both, and over a large enough sample, perhaps colluding players could gain an edge.

Sorry in advance if this is a waste of time.
I noticed almost the same thing with 2 players on stars that I will not mention. I forwarded my information to support, they did an in depth investigation and found that one person was using 2 accounts. They credited my account for EVERY hand I was involved with them and banned them from the site. If you think for ONE SECOND that collusion and multi-accounts aren't happening online...you are sorely mistaken.
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12-14-2010 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mddgfc
tatta isnt a bot imo just very disciplined and he crushes the level he plays at
If tatta is a bot...he is a very sophisticated one...we have played many times together in the ring and have chatted on several occasions. SS shows him to be one of THE best o8 players online in several categories.
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12-14-2010 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
chknpotpie made an interesting post about kuhns89 recently.

http://chknpotpie.blogspot.com/2010/...hns89-lol.html

the 2d 6c 4c 3s hand where he 4 or 5 bet 750ish ai pre was eye opening.
This was more of a post for entertainment value mixed in with a little calcs. The hands that followed, while somewhat different circumstances, were meant to illustrate the fact that it isn't a bad play unless someone else is doing it. Like Kuhns pushing there, against a tight reg, with most likely many wheel cards out, was really meh. It was a pretty easy shove for jesus, as all the value of a hand like AKK4 disappears in a multiway pot going to the flop.

Though the main point to the post was entertainment, and pointing out that people should think about the scenario rather than just blindly looking at the hands. Kind of similar to a scenario when a bunch of TAG regs call a raise pre, most likely means many wheel cards are gone, and I'm much more likely to call a 9TJQ type hand.
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12-14-2010 , 07:03 AM
wandered what had happened to sloqhay, must admit i think its a bang out of order if he now plays under a different name.
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12-14-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordy2Smordy
Redskin134 is also sloqhay a VERY solid o8 player
OK. I never saw him again after that couple of days, I guess he sampled the stars PLO8 cash tables and left (or moved up) .. I'm glad!
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12-15-2010 , 11:20 PM
Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone has played talisain51 in HU SNGs on Stars? The reason I ask is because I played him the other night and noticed some strange play. I played around 3 SNGs with him so obviously my sample size is not huge but still noticed something strange about his play in this short time.

While playing him, I noticed that he limped something like 85-90% of buttons, and raised about 5% IP. That's pretty strange right off the bat for a huge winner at the game, but I suppose it could work. In addition, I raised about 85% of my buttons and got called down almost every time. I just checked the results again the ONLY times he folded his BB was when I had strong aces and once more with 2356ds. Given that it is a VERY small sample size, this detail really is not that revealing, but worth noting I suppose.

Also, our WTSD% was about 25% with his winrate around 70%. Given the small sample, this doesn't say much on its own.

The detail that irked me was that NONE of my bluffs were successful, including 3 barrels on straight boards to be called down with middle two pair and no lo. In addition, the times where I was betting out with (relatively) strong draws, I ONLY got calls from nut draws that have me in horrible shape. Not once did I get called down with hero two pairs when I hit. If this is too vague, I apologize.

I want to point out that the only times I won at show down was if we got it in on the flop (I was usually a 60-40 dog or worse) and if I was short.

Now I hate to be throwing around such harsh accusations before there is more evidence, but have any of the SNG regs played talisain51 and noticed his peculiar play? Again, if this gives me any merit for not being a whiny punk, I am not tilted by losing 2 out of 3 to him (it was only a mid-sized buy in), and I am not an SNG pro trying to flame the guy for beating me. I just thought I would share this situation and maybe it some light if something is wrong.

If it turns out that I am the only one who has had this experience with him, I sincerely apologize.
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12-15-2010 , 11:38 PM
If there was no luck in poker you'd win every tournament.
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12-16-2010 , 01:07 AM
If you think Talisain runs good you should play Gliaglia...oh wait...you can't anymore
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12-16-2010 , 02:20 AM
My cash game experience (over the last 3yrs at least) with the above mentioned player is that he talented, & has kind of an unusual style that can make him difficult to play against.
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Now I hate to be throwing around such harsh accusations before there is more evidence
I see no evidence of cheating...
-Move to reg thread?
-Lock & X-out Name?
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12-16-2010 , 09:02 AM
[X] Pwned by villain's monster hand reading skillz
[ ] Evidence of cheating

Sorry to be glib but sounds like he's just really good.
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12-16-2010 , 09:20 AM
Ive played this guy for years.
His style is unusual (much more geared reading opponents and position) and is clearly a winning player, but Ive never seen anything that I've considered suspicious.
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12-16-2010 , 04:18 PM
It is very possible that I just got owned. I just never came across someone that played that well against almost all of my hands in so many standard spots, but then again it was a small sample so it could have been coincidence. Again, I did not want to accuse him of anything until I got the opinion of some of the SNG regs because thats not fair to him.
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12-16-2010 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordy2Smordy
I noticed almost the same thing with 2 players on stars that I will not mention. I forwarded my information to support, they did an in depth investigation and found that one person was using 2 accounts. They credited my account for EVERY hand I was involved with them and banned them from the site. If you think for ONE SECOND that collusion and multi-accounts aren't happening online...you are sorely mistaken.
I'll mention them for you, myself (deucebag916) and Maggotfeed. By the way Gordy, we're still waiting for our apologies, both on the board, and in the chat boxes on stars...I feel what's insulting is that you think I'd be cheating at .1/.25 more than anything else
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12-16-2010 , 05:36 PM
Oh, whoops. We weren't the ones guilty of cheating, it was another player We were just ACCUSED by Gordy every day of it for over a week straight. Gordy, has Stars sent you that sherrif's badge in the mail yet?
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12-16-2010 , 06:55 PM
played him for a while now. Find him a tough opponent, but always seemed straight.
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12-16-2010 , 08:53 PM
thoughts on yankees1927 on ub
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12-16-2010 , 11:01 PM
did you check to se if he had a picture of a dog , if so he cheats .
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12-17-2010 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordy2Smordy
Redskin134 is also sloqhay a VERY solid o8 player
I know who both players Be
I can assure you they are not the same person
sloqhay is quite removed from the game
and redskin is a solid in NLH cash reg
I hope you stop bothering the other players and stop creating rumors
and consume less beer while playing
try to improve your game, well better stay the same

on Maggotfeed and deucebag916
and played 90,000 hands v / s Maggotfeed
and 15,000 v / s deucebag916
is really stupid to think that they can be
the same player, his style and numbers are very different
and I have in my database many hands they play together

I hope you will apologize and stop bothering
waste your money on a nice
as we all
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