I'm trying to get better at these mix games so thought I'd post this for some feedback. I'm admittedly novice so glad to take any advice given to me here.

8-handed 40/80 mix, we're on Big-O.
Folds to CO who seems competent, who decides to open.

I have JJ223 double-suited on button and decide to 3-bet.
Is this too loose/awful?

My general thinking as to why it's not awful:
* I have two deuces and a three, so the odds of my opponent holding a better low hand such as A2 or A3 are less likely than usual. AK4XX and AK5XX with a suited ace seems like likely possibilities.
* My suits are only J-high but that may be good enough if I can get it heads up, and I'm capable of limiting losses if I hit a weak flush.
* Double-set capability, I mean come on.
* This guy's probably not auto-raising QQ or KK and JJ has a small chance of holding up on its own. Obviously AA is an easy hand for him to have though, given that I have no aces and everyone in front of him folded.
* I would have gone for the steal had he not raised in front of me.

On the flip side:
* One likely holding of his is AA
* AA2 and AA3 has me totally screwed
* He likely has a suited ace and maybe even a suited king as well. If he has these in my suits I'm dead on flushes.
* The big blind in this hand is a gambly type and is not likely going away, and loves to jam flop/turn.

I think on post-analysis this is a fairly trivial fold and the bad outweighs the good as outlined above.

I'm pretty much a novice too. So my analysis will likely get kicked to the curb.

Raising to balance out your hand ranges makes sense. I'm just not sure a raise here for any kind of value is a good idea. I'd fold. Quickly. Here's why....

Folded to CO could mean no A in first four hands. You don't have one. They could be in deck (good for your low) or in the CO or blinds. Bad for you.

Two sets? Sure, flopping a set of Jacks may get you the pot (or lose to a straight if board doesn't pair). A set of 2s you may have to fold many times as you could easily be getting freerolled if flop comes all low.

I wouldn't feel comfortable making a jack high flush and feeling pressure from any villain. Position helps though.

You still have the blinds to act and they could 1. Have the goods or 2. Execute a squeeze type play. Now what? You call the extra bet compounding a potential error to begin with.

I'd fold as dealt. Potentially raise with JJ234, JJ235, JJ245 type of hands.

I hate Big O. And love it.


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This is a good hand to 3b or fold from the btn, once you note that bb won't fold though there is no value in raising - you might end up playing for 4 or 5 bets

fold... u dont have an ace cant make a nut low unless an ace hits, then ur high is no good. u r correct if u p[lay it it is a steal. I would fold pre, big O the nuts are usually out there and u cant really make any nuts.

The chances of your opponent having a hand like AA2 are greater than you think. Your flush draws may be costly if you hit them. If you catch a jack, you've still got a drawing hand.

Easy fold.

If it was shorthanded or 4 card, I think you can do profitable business.

As things stand, I don't feel the same way.

5 choose 2 is ten, so the odds of CO having A2, etc. (any two card combo) is 66% more likely than if it was in regular FLO8.

As a beginner in this game, I would not have considered 3betting but now that I consider the spot it seems better than a flat to push the blinds out since your hand doesn't make the nuts too often. I personally would probably make the fishy flatcall with the 2 wheel cards and 2 blocker but I'm sure folding is the right play in most lineups.