The nut low draw got counterfitted and we have the nut high blocker so I was wondering if should be donk potting turn here to try and steal it ?


iPoker - $2 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $121.80 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $334.06 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
Hero (MP): $189.24
CO: $195.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BTN: $209.60 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: $170.34 (VPIP: 64.71, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Qs Ah Kd 3s
fold, Hero raises to $7.00, fold, BTN calls $7.00, fold, fold

Flop : ($17.00, 2 players) 3c Qh 5h
Hero bets $17.00, BTN raises to $68.00, Hero calls $51.00

Turn : ($153.00, 2 players) 2h

Hero?

I really don't like your sizing OTF here OOP. You're making your hand look like a high-only hand, which it is, and top and bottom isn't that strong either. Once he pots it, I would honestly recommend folding. Best case, he has something like a2xxhh. Worst case, a set or q5. Either way, you're drawing slim. Just fold flop to pot-sized raise.

As for the turn, it's very likely that he's improved to either a flush or a wheel so you can't bluff it which is one of the problems with your flop call. Presumably you hope for a non-heart KJ109 or Q3. Which is 13 cards. You need 33 % to call the flop. None of these outs are 100 % clean either. You gotta let it go OTF.

Yea flop action looks horribly strong to me

It might be fun to pot the turn OOP and it might work but it's reckless in the extreme. We can only be called by hands that beat us which leads back to STEK's point - fold to the pot-raise OTF

calling the flop raise left a 3/4pot bet behind,
consequently

-villain needs atleast 30.4% equity to make a +EV call when you shove vs. your actual hand, however given the nuttiness of the board it is somewhat irrelevant and the consideration is how often he has a very strong/nutty hand.

-if you were to lead-shove with 0% equity (a total bluff) you would require that villain folds atleast 43.8% of the time for the bluff to be +EV

however its not a total bluff, if we call your equity 8% when called then the percentage of the time that is required for villain to fold is reduced to atleast 35.9%, for the bluff to be +EV

it is probably +EV but who can say for certain, if its not it can't be horrible as he is folding a percentage of the time or calling when you have +ev equity. BUT i agree with the others, its the flop play that is suspect.

edit: was thinking perhaps i need to add for clarity that its +EV relative to folding.
when you fold you lose $75 on the hand, to be +EV relative to folding you will lose less then $75 on the hand.

are you guys saying you'd bet /fold the flop then? In retrospect I probably go that. I still think gotta bet flop to try and fold out a lot of equity

Edit: can't read hands properly today, just xc the flop. Villain isn't folding most of the time and we hate being raised. If we do bet, smaller is also better.

Would not recomend bluffing as played, but with deeper stacks (at least pot sized for turn and river) it should become good just because of the difficulty for villain to have a4/64 and raise this flop.

yeah. This would work better much deeper but I still don't hate it since we still have some equity and he has to hate that card a lot given our holding and his flop raise.