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Flopped 2nd NF w/ 3rd NL Flopped 2nd NF w/ 3rd NL

06-26-2016 , 03:41 AM
This is on Bovada so I don't have the hand history.

.1/.25 6M

3 Limpers, I limp on BU w/ K8cc53

Flop: 246ccc

CO, pots, I call, sb calls, turn x, CO Pots all in, I call, sb call.

A few things here: I feel like my hand is too weak and not lo enough to call pre even on the button but if it was 23, 24, it would be a call. Also i'm afraid since people play so passively pre that they have the NF w/ a better lo but i'm not sure if I can get away with the 2nd NF and 3rd NL.

Thoughts?
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06-26-2016 , 08:14 AM
IMHO CO *either* has the nut flush *or* A3, but it's highly improbable he has both (someday I'll learn to do the math and quantify it).

IMHO SB has something like A5 or even A4 (hoping to spike a 3 or some other low card), a set or a mid flush he just doesn't want to fold. If he has the nuts in either direction I find it hard to believe he'd just call hoping to keep you both in the pot - *maybe* a weak-tight does that heads-up, but against TWO villains he's gotta be thinking get it in.

IMHO you're almost always going to win half of this pot, so folding is way too nitty. I can't decide which is better between calling or raising the flop, but I'm going to lean toward stacking off on the flop. You're not getting away from this hand so you might as well at the very least overcharge the SB to draw. If he's ahead of you, FML and move on to the next hand.
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06-26-2016 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DalTXColtsFan
IMHO CO *either* has the nut flush *or* A3, but it's highly improbable he has both (someday I'll learn to do the math and quantify it).
Why is it improbable? You're basing your assumption on what?

He's showing a lot of strength in a what OP describes as a passive game. I think it's safe to assume he has us beat in at least one direction if not both. If has a nut flush we're behind with no chance of winning the high so we're essentially calling for half if everything goes as planned?

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IMHO SB has something like A5 or even A4 (hoping to spike a 3 or some other low card), a set or a mid flush he just doesn't want to fold. If he has the nuts in either direction I find it hard to believe he'd just call hoping to keep you both in the pot - *maybe* a weak-tight does that heads-up, but against TWO villains he's gotta be thinking get it in.
So, the CO has the nut flush, SB has a better low and we're still in the pot? I actually like your assumption he has a naked low. In this case I believe it's fair to assume the low is better than ours.

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IMHO you're almost always going to win half of this pot, so folding is way too nitty. I can't decide which is better between calling or raising the flop, but I'm going to lean toward stacking off on the flop. You're not getting away from this hand so you might as well at the very least overcharge the SB to draw. If he's ahead of you, FML and move on to the next hand.
I believe you're very rarely winning half of this pot. Winning the half is the best possible scenario for our hero and I don't think it happens enough.

Calling flop is probably ok. I'm folding the turn.

OP: Were you all shallow? Or just CO? Were you and SB also all-in on the turn or did you had any money left to play the river?

PF call is questionable to say the least. I personally am folding.
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06-26-2016 , 12:23 PM
Even with position, I agree it's a fold PF. And this is exactly the problem with the hand: the flop could hardly be better for you, and you're still wondering if you should fold it post-flop. Consider that there are 90-some % of flops that you like even less, it is better to just fold it pre.

That said, I would call here. 66/44/22 are all getting it in here, as is A 3. And probably A57 and who knows what else.
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06-26-2016 , 05:50 PM
Pre clear fold for me, as played I'd fold turn or maybe even flop.
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06-26-2016 , 07:43 PM
I agree with consensus of folding pre.
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