Ok, last one for now. Did I get outplayed on the turn? Or was the villain out of line or played it right?

Thanks.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $1/$2 Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 37.35 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 46.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: 17.34 BB (VPIP: 19.70, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
CO: 16.79 BB (VPIP: 63.69, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 21.05, Hands: 575)
BTN: 12.04 BB (VPIP: 59.46, PFR: 36.58, 3Bet Preflop: 13.50, Hands: 571)
Hero (SB): 17.83 BB

Hero posts SB 0.25 BB, BB posts BB 0.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 0.75 BB) Hero has 6 A 5 4

fold, fold, BTN raises to 1 BB, Hero calls 0.75 BB, fold

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 9 5 A
Hero checks, BTN bets 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 1 BB, BTN calls 0.5 BB

Turn: (4.5 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 1 BB, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

River: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

I fold pre-flop, especially with the non-suited ace. Even if you hit flop it's unlikely you hit without a better low being out there (or a better high).

Just my 2 cents.


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uh how can anyone argue for a fold here preflop. this is better than like 99% of the hands you can fight with in a HU situation.

wrt turn: it's totally fine to re-raise here HU. but i can understand slowing down if you don't know your villain and by default i'd slow down myself. big aces (AK, AQ, AJ, AT) aren't gonna cbet flop then fold for one more bet on an A92 board, so it's a reasonable expectation to see bigger 2p OTT. in general you see a lot of 2p hands put the raise in once the bets double. almost everyone plays their strong draws (LD/FD in this case) really fast on the flop. so if you take that out of a turn raising range, it leaves him with mostly made hands.

anyway, i c/f river barring any bluff history and the like. also, players who can read will be able to v-bet AK here so even if you're like "how does he show up with a 9 here," just know he doesn't necessarily need one.

My dang top/bottom pair otf was roasted by both turn and river.

My problem is the history. This particular player was borderline maniac.

If the roles were reversed, having turned a two pair and having the flush draw, would I also raise that turn, as he did? Thats a ton of scoop outs, if they are live.

I have to start accepting when both turn and river are bad for my hand.

At the very least I could bet/fold this river, as played.


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i actually didn't see that he had the FD but yeah i'd play his hand strongly OTT.

from villain's perspective, you're quite draw heavy as well when you c/r flop. frankly, it's a lot easier to see you having something like LL** with hearts than an ace + low draw and possibly other draws, or what you actually had, because you cold called his raise pre.

so villain should reasonably expect to actually have best made hand OTT much of the time as you're drawing often as well.

I think the hand is fine until the river, at that point we only beat a bluff so fold is correct vs most opponents

Thanks for the help everyone.

Turn bet was OK...

River call, I must accept that either the turn or river roasted me.

My river call profitability is pretty bad, and this is one spot to fold and save that precious BB for another river where maybe just the river card was bad.


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You didn't get outplayed on the turn. Your opponent raised when he was behind and got lucky on the river. Was he out of line? Maybe a little. He was pushing his draw in position. If a low comes on the end, he can check it back and hope to win half. If another Broadway card comes and you check, he can continue betting and try to push you off a better two pair. If he improves, he can value bet, of course.

The runout is just gross for you. By the river you lose to AA, KK, any 9, and any A with a kicker bigger than 6. What do you beat? Something like 23xx with hearts or 234x with or without hearts. Against this opponent, I think I would check/call the river, though against most opponents, I would check/fold (giving them credit for at least a bigger Ace).