6 handed game i just got here effective stacks 2500

hero dealt A7924 opens CO to 40 button calls big blind 3b 200 i call btn calls

Flop A6T

bb pots to 600 i call button calls

turn Q

bb pots putting hero all in both players cover

hero?

Maybe I'm nuts but I feel like we should just re-pot/get-in on the flop?
The worst we fear from BB is AA23 or TTA23 and the BTN can easily have 23xxx here. If we re-pot we should be able to get a fold from BTN if the only solid draw he has is to the nut low.

* Disclaimer: I'm not a good Omaha player. Looking forward to others' posts.

My preferred actions are getin flop and as played fold turn, although both decisions seem really close.

I'm a nit. And I would re-pot flop. The nut flush draw is a scooper - and 2-4 is nice low draw. You need to get low only (2-3 specifically) draws out and pot limit offers you that opportunity.

You also want to get out some straight wraps - which as played may have hit the turn.

Plus.... your re-pot could take the pot down (sometimes).


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Seems right, we can make the tightish fold on the turn since the action signifigantly increases the odds at least one opponent has 23 or the same 24 low draw

Jamming or calling flop really seems more villain dependent than anything else, I imagine gto its more of a call since a 2 or board pairing are bad spots for hero

It didn't feel like the BB was ever folding the flop if that changes things.

Also, isn't the 2 actually a good card on the turn? Improves my high and promotes my low by counterfeiting 23. I will still lose the low a lot but I should win the low slightly more often than if an 8 came in

Hmm, i think hero should win the lo more on an 8. How good or bad a card the 2 is is up for debate I guess.

Edit: will run some sims later

Feel like one of em has 23 after this flop action 100% of the time so I'm never good on the low when an 8 comes (tho that does give me nut high)

Also, why do we want 23 to fold the flop?

Because we would rather scoop than get scooped.

23 cant scoop me but i can scoop it

feel like Qh kills my 8s for the straight and one of my 3s is dead giving me only 3 3s at best for nut low, still feel 2 is an ok river, but i dislike any river that pairs board

Okay, 23 can't scoop you.
But if you let BTN draw to 23 while BB has the current best high hand, then you're looking for:
1) a 3 or maybe a 2 to make low against the button and get half the pot.
2) an 8 or club to get the high half of the pot (btn still gets the other half, unless you pick up a higher club and the low draw doesn't come in)
3) a 3 of clubs or maybe the 2 of clubs to scoop.

Basically, if you manage to push the BTN out of the hand, then unless BB has both high and low covered (AA23x, TT23x, AT23x), then you have a TON of outs to get back at least half the pot, and plenty of cards to scoop.
Leaving the BTN in w/ 23 gives you fewer scooping cards and very little chance to make the best low.

yeah driving 23 out does clear some of my outs but i had no idea the button would show up with that and definitely feared BB could be working on AA23x. he is a tight player so i have him on AA or A23 or at least a strong A2x, so the flat behind by button surprised me. There shouldnt be many wraps in his range, there is only so many aces in the deck, so 23xxx is the only hand i could put him on

anyway, i chose not to raise flop, just didnt expect btn to show up with a flat ever but once he does flat, 24 for low is never good imo

didnt even consider raising flop in game but it makes sense

so im looking at Qc as being dead and possibly 3 of the 8s so fold?

Do you think button will call a huge bet here with only the nut low draw?

hahs....just realized if i drive 23 out i now have both high and low nut draw...duh...i think i was speaking in terms of me knowing what they had after the fact

but i put bb on a super strong hand, he has potted twice

definitelt think raising flop is better but in a 6 handed game and it being my first orbit, i didnt expect such a cooler hand so raise never occurred to me

as far as button goes, he would absolutely flat a naked 23xxx hand if i flat (he is the one at the table always pushing for waterfalls and sometimes bets on flop color when he can get action)

that being said there is hardly any 23xxx that dont have equity for high. was worried about the q bqcking him into a straight, how often it kills my off suit 8s

but...if i call btn will call for sure

Should have just limped pre