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20c/40c limit from 8 game - Should I "defend" my blind here? 20c/40c limit from 8 game - Should I "defend" my blind here?
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02-06-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Blind defence is not something I have paid much attention to in the past. I just play if I have a good hand, or defend with something that can make a wheel, or 4 big cards. I need to work on it.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.20/$0.40 Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37630106

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 Q Q 8
UTG raises, MP folds, CO calls, BTN folds, SB calls, Hero calls
Spoiler:

Flop: (8 SB) J 3 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, CO calls, SB calls, Hero folds

Turn: (5.5 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, CO raises, SB folds, UTG calls

River: (9.5 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, CO bets, UTG calls


So I'm getting 7.5 to my 1... Call?
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02-06-2017 , 03:23 PM
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I would defend, but it's close.

I don't think looking at the pot odds you are getting is really the right way to think about it, since with certain types of hands, your odds of winning actually decrease more rapidly than your pot odds improve as more players enter the hand. This is an easy defense heads-up, but a marginal one multi-way.
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02-06-2017 , 05:51 PM
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Super standard defend
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02-06-2017 , 06:06 PM
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what textures are you aiming for to continue on?
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02-07-2017 , 09:47 AM
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I'm not defending here to a UTG raise. Late steal position raise, def, but not here, seems like a leak, or a raggy board lead out and hope villain doesn't have aces. The 7,8 kills our hand here Lucius. Replace them with 2 wheel cards and yes. Seems like we are drawing to two outs on the flop, I don't like those odds. Think in reverse, if you raised utg would you want a call from the bb with that starting hand. I WOULD
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02-07-2017 , 01:04 PM
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I'm not defending here to a UTG raise. Late steal position raise, def, but not here, seems like a leak, or a raggy board lead out and hope villain doesn't have aces. The 7,8 kills our hand here Lucius. Replace them with 2 wheel cards and yes. Seems like we are drawing to two outs on the flop, I don't like those odds. Think in reverse, if you raised utg would you want a call from the bb with that starting hand. I WOULD
If I am the preflop raiser, I am almost always preferring the big blind to fold rather than defend, though in a four way pot I am pretty indifferent.

And if I am the OP, the likelihood that the villain has aces is a much less of a consideration to me in a four-way pot than the likelihood of getting whipsawed or forced to fold away equity later in the hand.
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02-07-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
Blind defence is not something I have paid much attention to in the past. I just play if I have a good hand, or defend with something that can make a wheel, or 4 big cards. I need to work on it.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.20/$0.40 Limit Omaha H/L Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37630106

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 Q Q 8
UTG raises, MP folds, CO calls, BTN folds, SB calls, Hero calls
Spoiler:

Flop: (8 SB) J 3 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, CO calls, SB calls, Hero folds

Turn: (5.5 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, CO raises, SB folds, UTG calls

River: (9.5 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, CO bets, UTG calls


So I'm getting 7.5 to my 1... Call?
If ur calling pre, you pretty much need a Q to hit the board here. I float the flop and fold the turn
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02-08-2017 , 04:21 AM
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Yes. Standard defend. No need for a thread about it

Quote:
Originally Posted by OFC_OMG
If ur calling pre, you pretty much need a Q to hit the board here. I float the flop and fold the turn
This is not what floating is at all.
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