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Originally Posted by Matthew Janda
That's realistically unlikely to happen as that seems like a lot of work for not a pretty small pay out. I think I could literally spend all day on this and still wouldn't be convinced QXs is a clear 3-bet or T9s is or is not.
I also just think T9s is a lot more +EV in a single raised pot than Q2s is in a single raised pot. That's the main reason why T9s is called. I of course agree post-flop I'd much rather have T9s in a 3-bet pot than Q2s too, I just think it's a lot better in a single raised pot (and if we call the single raised pot happens 100% of the time, whereas playing in a 3-bet pot may only occur 45% or so of the time).
FWIW, I just checked pokersnowie out of curiosity, and Snowie is using a mixed strat of 3-betting and calling with nearly all weak KXs/QXs/JXs in this spot. It is 3-betting T9s 100% of the time though, so that may be correct ot 3-bet as well. But I also think Snowie 4-bets at too low of a frequency and I think against players who 4-bet more aggressively T9s makes a better call (because if we 3-bet it we'll have to call the 4-bet).
Well, if your Q2s sees a flop in a 3bet pot 45% of the time, but the pots where you do see a flop are 3x as big (go from a starting pot size of 6 to 18, say), I don't think that's a net gain. You're putting your weak equity at risk more often. 3 x .45 > 1 x 100
Going back to the main point, the main thing you're passing up with the Q2s is the value from your kicker pairing. The chance of (you and opponent both pair your kickers) + chance of (you pair your kicker and your opponent has an unimproved pocket pair) is significantly higher than the chance of (you pair your top card and your opponent also makes that pair). Granted, the pots are bigger when you both hit top pair, but as you describe your strategy you're already in loss-minimization mode when you pair the queen, so I don't think it'll make up for it.
Anyway, quibbles aside, it's great to see you writing for the 2+2 magazine, and engaging with us in the peanut gallery. I hope to see more.
Last edited by creedofhubris; 07-27-2014 at 11:33 AM.