Making $100/hr Playing On-line Low Stakes Poker - Page 4 - Two Plus Two Magazine

voldersmort · 02-09-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ooohjoy

if you average 6 tables of rush poker for about 1200 hands per hour (average hands per hour at rush estimated at about 200). if you play 8 hours per day, that's 9600 hands. if your winrate is modest, ie. 2bb/100. at nl50, that'd be $96/hr.

if you work as hard as certain airplane pilots, business people, top athletes and others who are known to work very hard and do long hours, you can make $100 per hour at low/small stakes poker. the math is real simple.

2ptbb/100 hands @ 50NL = $2 per 100 hands

1200 hands per hour means that hourly is $2x12/hr

= $24/hr +RB

No idea where $96/hour is coming from.

On FTP at 100NL(non-rush) I can only think of one player that would be over $100/hr and he's 16 tabling winning at 4ptbb+/100.

max86 · 02-09-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by voldersmort

2ptbb/100 hands @ 50NL = $2 per 100 hands

1200 hands per hour means that hourly is $2x12/hr

= $24/hr +RB

No idea where $96/hour is coming from.

On FTP at 100NL(non-rush) I can only think of one player that would be over $100/hr and he's 16 tabling winning at 4ptbb+/100.

12 tabling FTP non rush tables is REALLY slow, 16 tabling is usualy only 1k to 1.2k hand an hour, usualy on the lower side.

so you would need 9+ptbb at 50nl to be close to 100 an hour

voldersmort · 02-09-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by max86

12 tabling FTP non rush tables is REALLY slow, 16 tabling is usualy only 1k to 1.2k hand an hour, usualy on the lower side.

so you would need 9+ptbb at 50nl to be close to 100 an hour

yup that's why I doubt there is anyone beating 50NL for over $100/hr (at least on Stars/Tilt dunno about this 70% rakeback ********) unless they are multi siting or something. If the best regs at FR 100NL on tilt are struggling to break it then chances are no one at 50NL is.

kk<<trupqq · 02-09-2011, 10:43 PM

citizenwind and nutedawg have both independently claimed they could beat 50NL (non-HU, that is, 6 or 9 handed) for 10ptbb (that's 20bb/100) over large samples. cw said he would only do it if somebody made a prop bet with him to make the time doing it worth his while, and it drives me nuts that nobody has taken him up on this bet. nute MIGHT be able to.. MAYBE. if he two tabled and only played when the games were the best. but there is zero chance cw can do this. Man I wish somebody would take them up on this.

sources:

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...593#post558593

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...l=1#post550491

AlexLink · 02-10-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kk<<trupqq

citizenwind... said he would only do it [beat 50NL for 10ptbb)] if somebody made a prop bet with him to make the time doing it worth his while...

So $100/hr isn't worth his while?

BTW, PTR has Alvin "Citizenwind" Lau at 4.1BB/100 over 60K hands at NL50 through August.

ooohjoy · 02-10-2011, 12:14 PM

i failed math @ high school, go figure lolol

**venice10** · 02-10-2011, 01:41 PM

In 2008, WCGRider made a prop bet that he could win $10,000 in one month at 25nl. He is a terrific player and was playing well above 25nl at that time. Here's the thread that covered the event.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...thread-208939/

This coda pretty much says it all.

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

(xposted from my blog)

Well it isnt easy, but I think its time to call it. Had a small downswing today and there really is no point in continuing. If i go back to normal stakes i can prob make a good chunk of this money back, and i need to grind out the points for my EPT package (which will be much easier at higher levels).

What went wrong? Well several things in my opinion.

1) I actually believe regs adapted to me(as lol as that sound at nl 25). Basically, the first couple of days i played, i actually made +1200. But even more then that, I was basically breakeven near the end of the first day. So i essentially went +1200 in ~30 hours. But then i totally ran into a wall. I started gettig killed in non sd pots and it just seemed like i wasnt stacking anyone. A few days went by, and i started playing absolutely crazy lag, which actually worked for a bit. But then again, after a couple of days people started to catch up. It seemed like i could always get a couple days in of doing wlel and then it would just stall out, which you really cant have in something like this.

2) I played during the day a bunch. Sort of retarded on my end, but the games can be abolutely so nitty during the day that it is very difficult to even beat them for very much. Playing at night is definetely the way to go when you do something like this.

3) My sleeping was absolutely terrible during this. Actually, for the first week, it wasnt even sleeping. Id lay down for about3-4 hours and then get back up because i just plain and simple could not sleep. Every day, couldnt sleep. It relaly starts to get to you and it started to wear on me very hard.

4) I didnt realize how invalid my prior sample of 140k hands at nl 25 was. I beat it for 7-8 ptbb/100 over that sample and thought wow, i could just light this up. Didnt happen.

So Xorbie can go ahead and send out the bets. I dont want to keep anything waiting any longer then it has to. Sorry for letting you guys down but i gave it my best and hey, thats all you can do. There is no point continuing for my $18 hourly atm (lol). At least put my money to good use.

=p.

~Doug

Today, 25nl is far tougher than it was in 2008.

MidnightToker · 02-10-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mightyTooGood

h0@x, p.s. roulete for fishez only

Tell that to James Grosjean. Next you'll claim that no one can make money at video poker.

Nutedawg · 02-10-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kk<<trupqq

citizenwind and nutedawg have both independently claimed they could beat 50NL (non-HU, that is, 6 or 9 handed) for 10ptbb (that's 20bb/100) over large samples. cw said he would only do it if somebody made a prop bet with him to make the time doing it worth his while, and it drives me nuts that nobody has taken him up on this bet. nute MIGHT be able to.. MAYBE. if he two tabled and only played when the games were the best. but there is zero chance cw can do this. Man I wish somebody would take them up on this.

sources:

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...593#post558593

http://www.cardrunners.com/cr_forums...l=1#post550491

this was over a year ago. im guessing this would not be possible now.

WAtR · 02-15-2011, 12:55 PM

I would say it is fairly likely that quite a few people could make around $100/hour at 50NL, but obviously they will move up after a few days of doing that.

aling · 02-16-2011, 04:27 AM

It' either highly improbable or impossible judging by the winnings of supernova elite players. The typical supernova elite player earns $100K in rakeback and 0 in winnings by grinding 30 tables 40 hours a week which is $50/hour. I doubt that anyone already willing to commit to that much grinding would be abe to earn twice as much simply by improving their game or switching sites. They are already doing all they can to maximize their winnings and concluded $50/hour is the max. Don't forget if you fail to make supernova elite the same grinder will only make $25/hour!

Exothermic · 02-16-2011, 10:16 PM

50nl hu grinders can make $100+ an hr... if a skilled multi tabling hu player grinded 50nl 4-8 tables at a time im sure he can achieve $100+ an hr... in full ring or 6max its less practical

max86 · 02-16-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

50nl hu grinders can make $100+ an hr... if a skilled multi tabling hu player grinded 50nl 4-8 tables at a time im sure he can achieve $100+ an hr... in full ring or 6max its less practical

not in true hourly, the 50nl hu players with high hourly in HEM are bumhunters who play 2mins, sitout and wait for an other huge whale.. in 1 day of 6 hours their HEM might show 40mins played.

Of course if a real hu pro who is good against good regs drops down to 50nl and plays on multisite to be sure to get enough action from the terrible regs bread at 50nl or fish, he would make 100$ an hour quite easily.

superjeff24 · 02-17-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rackem

i thought this was implausible too but then i read this book called 'the secret' and everything became so clear to me.

LOL!

superjeff24 · 02-17-2011, 12:58 PM

I love how people are saying this would be really simple to do, and yet we have zero recorded instances of it happening even once. I have gone 68-47 for $750 in profit this week. 59% winrate (heads up sng) And I'm only getting $54.54/hr played. For $100/hr to be attainable after 115 HUSNG's you'd have to win 75 out of 115 which is 65% wins. That is nearly impossible unless you're only playing really bad donks, and you'll be waiting around for many hours more.