IMHO, a lifetime ban is a bad precedent, since a false accusation is always possible. So, that 3 year policy is probably fair from all perspectives. Also, in my opinion, making this story so accessible to public makes it less likely, that PS will make a positive decision in the end. They may want to give you a second chance, but it is definately NOT in their interest to advertise it.

i have only read through 2 pages of this thread, and whilst i have never nor would i collude i beleive that if someone is very sorry for their actions and have waited the 3 years they were instructed to, whilst maintaining a good name, then they should be at least allowed 6months or a years probation, whilst having their games monitored by the same software which detected their collusion in the first place.

even murders can be reformed, part of the modern human criminal reform society

Moreover

Man, give that kid a break. He made a mistake, and he did everything to make it right again. If your young and unknown to the games your not aware of the implications. I hope you get a fresh start.

Those emails you send pleading are degrading to yourself.

I wouldn't add being a groveller to your repertoire of characteristics after already being caught cheating.

Take it on the chin.

Yes. I agree with you. The person who made mistakes and realize that he did wrong. Give him a chance on the condition if he will not do same again. You are right some people commit mistakes due to the unawareness.

Pretty much this. This is what i thought. You are continually asking for mercy as though it should be granted to you because you are someone when, in fact, you are just a cheat, which is one of the things that gives a bad name to poker.
You are also asking for them to let you play with really cheap ecxuses, such as "I'm really sorry" "It won't happen again" and the like; are they supposed to take your words seriously? Moreover, you are claiming you were cheated on and try to make this a way of getting unbanned: I fail to see why they would allow you to play just because you got cheated and reported it. And in addition, you are claiming that you are honest for asking to get your account back, claiming that you could have used your girlfriend's account to play: this sounds like a little kid being condescendent; you ask politely not because you are honest, but because its the right thing to do. And you shouldn't be saying that you are more credible for doing this rather than creating an alternate account: this doesn't make you any better, the other would make you much worse.
You also claim that these type of bannings don't protect players, but quite frankly I'm relieved that there is one less cheat around and agree completely on a 0 tolerance policy with cheats.
I just fail to see you have changed, but rather are hurt that you got caught and you are just trying to get back (but then again, who am I after all?).
That is not to say that I believe in lifetime bannings, I htink people should have the possibility to go back and repair the damage that they have done, its just I don't think this is what you are trying to do (as a matter of fact, you seem to be rather aggressive in your comments, pretty much demanding to get your account back on your own terms based on quite loose arguments; you should approach the situation in a much more humble manner IMO).
All in all, in my eyes, you don't deserve a second chance, as your attitude doesn't really demonstrate a change. But that's just my opinion.

EDIT: That being said and after reading some comments, I agree that if there is a policy of just waiting 3 years for a ban, this might be a viable solution, although I don't believe you deserve it. If this is repeated, I'd seriously consider a lifetime ban (although my positioning over these kind of bans was made clear in my post).


-Wolf

regardless of crime no-one DESERVES a second chance

The key word being "deserves". A second chance might be granted out of the goodness in PokerStars heart but is not a legal, moral or ethical necessity. Basically PokerStars owes you nothing, in-fact due to your previous behaviour you owe them something. They have abided by their terms and conditions which basically boils down to "If you cheat we have no obligation to provide our service you" or if you want the full details

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7. BREACH
7.1. Without prejudice to any other rights, if a User breaches in whole or in part any provision contained herein, Rational Social or any other company within the Group which provides services to the User reserves the right to take such action as it sees fit, including terminating this Agreement or any other agreement in place with the User, immediately blocking the User’s access to the Service or to any other service offered by the Group, terminating such User's account on the Site or on any other site operated by the Group, seizing all Virtual Chips held in the User’s account on the Site or on any other site operated by the Group and/or taking legal action against such User.

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Now it is completely up to PokerStars if you are GRANTED a second chance and there should be not pressure placed on them to do so. They are well within the rights that you agreed that they should have. Although sending a nicely worded email to enquire about the possibility of a second chance may be advisable they can still say "no", "not yet" or even "never". Attempting to curry public favour with other sites to attempt force their hand is a step too far. If you have any esteem for justice or even for mercy being freely offered then this has to be the last time we hear about this dispute.

Im grunching, but

You can't say things like "if I want to play ill play on my sister or friends account" and then expect them to re-instate you. Pretty dumb, and it speaks to the fact that you might not be 100% clean and honest if you are willing to (at the very least) threaten to do things like that.

Agree with the above, if have been caught cheating, the go on to mention how you could cheat the system to continue playing on FTP

Showing that you still have the mentality of being a cheat, your brain still works long those lines. Guessing FTP/PS picked up on that.

Do you? No you don't

Imo everyone deserves a second chance (I understand what you're arguing, but, to me, it's moot, not everything is rules and stipulations etc.). It's what society has evolved to: even murderers can be given second chances, after being rehabilitated and being punished (and they shouldn't always be given that chance).
I think it's in this thread someone said Pokerstars just doesn't give a second chance for PR reasons (I didn't re-read after this bump). I can understand that, but I don't agree with it.
On the other hand, maybe they do give second chances occasionally but just not to this guy, for some reason.
All the best to OP.

this.

Have they lifted bans before?

Yes, even murderers can be GIVEN second chances but that does not mean they should be ENTITLED to a second chance. I am not saying that it is all about the rules what I am saying is that it is up to PokerStars to decide if they want to give a second chance. Bringing other people into this debate is a shameless attempt to force PokerStars into an action that only they have the authority to decide. I think the advice I have given is sound and believe that I deserve $50

of course
i transferred $49 to your pokerstars account, imo i shouldn't have to carry this burden alone

Shockingly, I don't have a PokerStars account...

those thiefs!

Don't even try to get them to overlook a policy it's a waste of time. I've been trying to get a namechange for years now. Their rules or ironclad and they don't give a **** about you or your situation.

And what you did here isn't even something as trivial as a namechange or swearing on the table's. You cheated! That is a big NO NO!

If they gave everyone 2nd chances who cheated then that'll only encourage more cheaters.

Sorry, not trying to pour cold water on you or anything. I've dealt with pokerstars policies and know very well how they work.

Just trying to save you time!

he cant play on lock he said he gave up cheating,they have no place for those not wanting to cheat players lol

YES ,but cant recall a ban being lifted before the suspension time was completed unless the person proved should not be banned to begin with.
Cheaters shouldnt get any breaks.
Do the crime do the time.
Stars have done the right thing here to protect their players.He should have done his 3 years then begged to play again.( would hope they didnt let him back at all)
Some "lesser " sites only too happy to let cheaters play on as long as they are getting their rake.Lets thank Stars (and the reborn FTP) for catching these lowlifes and removing them at the first chance they get to do so.
Now lets just hope the rest of the industry takes a note from PokerStars and clamps down on the ripoffs happening on their tables and bans a few for life !

Everyone desearves a 2nd chance,but people dont give to them, people when they do bad things normally go to jail, when they go out its been giving them a 2nd chance..
I think pokerstars acts irracional in many ways not only these one

To say everyone deserves a 2nd chance is to de-value kindness. If everyone is obligated to be kind, "kindness" is no longer kindness. Although it would be nice to see PokerStars offering a second chance they should not be deemed mean-spirited or irrational if they decline. If PokerStars of their own free will offers a second chance they are being inordinately kind. They do not need to show this kindness as sir_Achil agreed to certain rules when he signed up. If however we demand that everyone deserves a second chance we are figuratively putting a gun to PokerStars head and saying "be nice!". If PokerStars then offers sir_Achil a second chance how do we know if it is genuine kindness or them cowardly submitting to the bullying of public opinion? I know your heart is in the right place and you want to do the kind thing with sir_Achil (who has done something wrong), however in doing so you are acting in an unkind manner towards PokerStars (who have technically done nothing wrong). If you disagree show me which rules of conduct PokerStars has broken. It is better to say "It is wonderful, good, praiseworthy and exemplary if everyone is given another chance" rather than "Everyone DESERVES another chance". One of these phrases correctly values kindness the other overlooks it.

I have to go with "NO". However, there is another way you could erase your bad resume: play live poker. Win LOts of big tournaments. Eventually, they will WANT you to play on their sites. If you really dedicated enough to poker, you would be able to play it

r there any cliffs?