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Zuckerberg Says He's Not Running For President (he totally is tho) Zuckerberg Says He's Not Running For President (he totally is tho)

08-06-2017 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BrookTrout
Joining a 'men's circle' and then complaining about how some of them hold socially awkward views seems self-defeating.

Actually, it's not self-defeating, but I just don't know the proper term to use in place of "duh - what'd you expect?".
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I don't even know what a men's circle is or what it's purpose is, but I'd bet its meetings aren't as good for you as a few beers and laughs.
It's basically men talking about **** with men that they usually only talk about with their female friends. I got a lot out of the first few meetings. But lately it feels more like group therapy.

Then again maybe I just have a superiority complex, which serves as a mask for deep-seeded insecurities, and gives me an excuse avoid real bonding.

Wait, what?
08-06-2017 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
It's basically men talking about **** with men that they usually only talk about with their female friends. I got a lot out of the first few meetings. But lately it feels more like group therapy.

Then again maybe I just have a superiority complex, which serves as a mask for deep-seeded insecurities, and gives me an excuse avoid real bonding.

Wait, what?
Remember a few weeks ago when you told me your life in SoCal was totes normal and not at all super weird in very predictable SoCal ways?
08-06-2017 , 11:58 PM
No. I feel like you're very loosely characterizing some other conversation.
08-07-2017 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Malachii
Zuckerberg could never pull that off.
Zuckerbarg has all of Hillary's charisma and all of her policy positions and apparently is hiring her handlers and pollsters. Nominating him would basically be an acknowledgement that Republicans were right all along about how gov't should be run like a business, which gives Republicans a huge boost.

I think he narrowly wins vs. Trump, but it's a terrifying situation and rankly another 2016-style collapse is a real possibility.
08-07-2017 , 04:42 AM
What if he changes his name?





08-07-2017 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It's really happening, you guys.


08-07-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Guys, he's not an atheist anymore.


08-07-2017 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Malachii
Even if he were to run, there's basically zero chance he gets elected. People aren't going to vote for an arrogant billionaire who is 10+ years younger than them and oozes condescension.
There is much more than a zero chance, c'mon. That is ridiculous.

Zuckerberg:

-- More than capable of self funding a campaign from start to finish.
-- More than capable of turning out voters that are excited and loyal.
-- More than capable of getting significant DNC backing in a general election.

I think we'll see the Democrat primaries being much more open to competition in 2020. Then if Biden runs the argument to go with the safe, experienced candidate will be a lot weaker given the HRC debacle. If not Biden,Bernie? If not Bernie who else is likely to emerge, HRC?
08-07-2017 , 06:17 AM
I for one welcome my new Iron Man Overlord.

08-07-2017 , 06:18 AM
Side note: I totally thought it was an informal circle of men, not a formal Circle Of Men.
08-07-2017 , 09:08 AM
Thread needs a "dislike" button
08-07-2017 , 09:18 AM
Why are we assuming that Zuck will run as a Dem and not as a guy to primary Trump?
08-07-2017 , 09:45 AM
Who the **** are this guy's voters supposed to be? Who are the ~45% of the American electorate who are going to vote for a guy who:

- Has no personality
- Looks like a 12 year old crossed with a potato
- Has never espoused any political positions whatsoever beyond occasional vague platitudes about not hating Muslims and LGBT people.
- Nobody knows anything about him except he was an ******* in that movie about his life where he stole his big idea and ****ed over his friend
- Was an atheist until it was politically necessary to pretend to be religious
- Has no experience of anything related to government whatsoever ('neither does Trump!' - yeah, look how well that's going)
- Became a mega-billionaire from harvesting people's personal data and selling it to advertisers
- Has no obvious base apart from millennial tech worshippers who for some reason think it would be really cool to have a SV guy running the country, which is an insanely small percentage of the US electorate
- Has no personality. Personality is really important. Every general election since 1992 has been won by someone likable, charismatic or both.

Like, the fact that the guy is even considering running shows how clueless he is. He thinks some public speaking classes and optimally focus-grouped policy positions will just naturally translate into votes? lol



Here is a recent speech given by MZ. I challenge you to

(a) Get through as much of it as you can without wanting to kill yourself and/or him.
(b) Imagine 45 year old lower middle class voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan etc looking at this guy and thinking 'Yeah, that's who I think should be president'.

tl;dr - If you think MZ would be a good president you deserve 8 years of Donald Trump and also to be hit in the face with a brick.
08-07-2017 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
There is much more than a zero chance, c'mon. That is ridiculous.

Zuckerberg:

-- More than capable of self funding a campaign from start to finish.
-- More than capable of turning out voters that are excited and loyal.
-- More than capable of getting significant DNC backing in a general election.
Seriously, why would you ever ever ever think this is true?
08-07-2017 , 09:49 AM
Zuckerberg has the dirt on basically every person in America. Also like a trillion dollars. If he wants to be president it is a done deal.
08-07-2017 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Why are we assuming that Zuck will run as a Dem and not as a guy to primary Trump?
Because the market in N-dimensional chess decoder rings is very bearish right now. People are mostly doing what it looks like they're doing, turns out.
08-07-2017 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
Seriously, why would you ever ever ever think this is true?
Adios getting excited over a Zuckrberg campaign should tell us something.
08-07-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99



Then again maybe I just have a superiority complex, which serves as a mask for deep-seeded insecurities, and gives me an excuse avoid real bonding.



Wait, what?

this had me dying until I realized how easily it could apply to me...
08-07-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Why are we assuming that Zuck will run as a Dem and not as a guy to primary Trump?
Are the deplorables really going to vote for (((Mark Cuckerburg)))?
08-07-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Then again maybe I just have a superiority complex, which serves as a mask for deep-seeded insecurities, and gives me an excuse avoid real bonding.

Wait, what?




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Originally Posted by wiper
this had me dying until I realized how easily it could apply to me...
It could be the 2+2 company motto.
08-07-2017 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Malachii
And just to clarify before people take issue with that last statement: Trump is nasty, crude, and vulgar, for sure. But he also never makes his supporters feel inferior (intellectually or otherwise). Quite the opposite, in fact - he empowers them with fake populism. Zuckerberg could never pull that off.
I actually think Trump's biggest asset is probably his apparently limitless supply of tackiness. Like if you're living in rural West Virginia or wherever and work in a coal mine, you probably dream of a day you can strike it rich and do things like having solid gold bathroom fixtures, having paintings of yourself all over your house, getting horribly messed up hair plugs to hide your baldness, and then marrying a Slovenian hooker to be your trophy wife.

Contrast that with people who actually have taste and use their money in intelligent and modest ways, and the regular people just can't relate, even though the fortune they've amassed may be many times greater than Trump's.
08-07-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
It could be the 2+2 company motto.
Throw in something about how online interaction, while a weak substitute for the real thing, is just enough to satiate the superioroty complex shutin.
08-07-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Throw in something about how online interaction, while a weak substitute for the real thing, is just enough to satiate the superioroty complex shutin.
/tip 100
08-07-2017 , 01:47 PM
Anyone have any idea how much Zuck can use info that he obtains through facebook and use that to his advantage to get elected? What legal limits exist right now?

My guess is that this not something anyone ever anticipated, so he can probably do a lot that is not technically illegal that no other candidate possibly could.

I imagine if Zuck's campaign gains steam, some concerned congresscritters will start passing some bills and Trump will have his signing pen ready.
08-07-2017 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
There is much more than a zero chance, c'mon. That is ridiculous.

Zuckerberg:

-- More than capable of self funding a campaign from start to finish.
-- More than capable of turning out voters that are excited and loyal.
-- More than capable of getting significant DNC backing in a general election.

I think we'll see the Democrat primaries being much more open to competition in 2020. Then if Biden runs the argument to go with the safe, experienced candidate will be a lot weaker given the HRC debacle. If not Biden,Bernie? If not Bernie who else is likely to emerge, HRC?
I still think Booker is the favorite, although there are some other people that I'm keeping my eye on.

But Kafja's response is pretty much the same response that I would give you. Zuckerberg could self-fund for sure, and I'm sure he could do a lot of revolutionary things on the data analysis / micro targeting of advertising at voters front, but at the of the day he's just not a winning product.

Read this analysis of the WWC vote (it's by far the best one I've ever seen): https://hbr.org/ideacast/2016/11/why...oted-for-trump

These people will NEVER vote for Zuckerberg, and that's whose vote you need to win if you're gonna win the election.

      
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