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Originally Posted by javi
If people's employers werent subsidizing the cost of insurance.
Let's stop right there. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. I never said anything about whether our current system is the best, whether we should have universal health care or not, whether employers should subsidize health care, etc.
You, case closed, and Phil are inferring a whole bunch of things that I never have said. So for completeness sake let me recap the points I have made.
1. In our current system, many people just don't take saving for health care as seriously as they should. This is irrational. If there are a large number of people that are being bankrupted by < 10K bills, I think a significant portion of them could have avoided it if they made saving for health care a priority. But people just don't think this way (at least most don't).
I do admit (as I always have), that many of these people, under our current system, could not have avoided bankruptcy even if they saved every penny for health care.
2. No system covers everyone for everything.
3. I think that for a low but significant number of conditions, a patient will receive better care in the US than they would in a rich UHC care country.
Here's what I have not said,
1. On balance, our system is better than UHC.
2. People should be able to avoid medical bankruptcy in the US in all cases.
3. Our system is better than UHC at avoiding medical bankruptcy.