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Old 02-18-2011, 11:30 PM   #496
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Re: Wisconsin Governor deploys "nuclear option" and takes on public unions.

I love the woman who was screaming, "It's for the kids," followed by some nonsense about how the government is going to take away weekends and 40-hour work weeks that unions gave us.

Disgusting. The whole lot of 'em.

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Old 02-18-2011, 11:54 PM   #497
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Re: Wisconsin Governor deploys "nuclear option" and takes on public unions.

Unions take money that should be going to the kids, police, homeless, and other city matters. These teachers are despicable.

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Old 02-19-2011, 12:32 AM   #498
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Yeah, they're protesting for the kids. That's why they're all calling in sick forcing kids to miss school.

Ya, you're all right -- the short-term prospers over the long-term. I mean, who cares that the entire American education system is in shambles. Who cares that your kids don't actually learn anything in school save how to be Good Industrial Pawns; a meme that went obsolete in the 60's. Who cares that America now needs to get competitive, to start producing things, to begin innovating -- which requires brains that the current school system can't provide. Who cares about any of this?

After all, the kids missed school today.

And it was all because those short-sighted union members shut 'em down!

Keep it up. Watch it burn. You had it once. It is slipping away. Once it's gone, it will not come back. Conservatism is not progress, it is fear. Think of your children. Do not fear what will save you.
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:45 AM   #499
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Re: Wisconsin Governor deploys "nuclear option" and takes on public unions.

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Unions take money that should be going to the kids, police, homeless, and other city matters. These teachers are despicable.
The anti teacher thing has been a huge part of this thread but people do realize they are like 20% of the group we are talking about, right?
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Old 02-19-2011, 12:52 AM   #500
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Re: Wisconsin Governor deploys "nuclear option" and takes on public unions.

What's funny is that the teachers aren't even affected by this bill.

They aren't state employees.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:19 AM   #501
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Re: Wisconsin Governor deploys "nuclear option" and takes on public unions.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...hard_sell.html

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A new poll from the Washington-based Clarus Group asked:

Do you think government employees should be represented by labor unions that bargain for higher pay, benefits and pensions ... or do you think government employees should not be represented by labor unions?

A full 64% of the respondents said "no."

That includes 42% of Democrats, and an overwhelming majority of Republicans. Only 49% of Democrats think public workers should be in unions at all.
Dems should run like hell from this issue.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:22 AM   #502
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i cant believe the amount of socialist among us( 20% or so)-much too many!
Socialism?? This is about fiscal responsibility.
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Old 02-19-2011, 01:57 AM   #503
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What's funny is that the teachers aren't even affected by this bill.

They aren't state employees.
After how active you have been in this thread its pretty sad you don't know the details.
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:20 AM   #504
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What's funny is that the teachers aren't even affected by this bill.

They aren't state employees.
[ ] Inso0 has a clue
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:49 AM   #505
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What's funny is that the teachers aren't even affected by this bill.

They aren't state employees.
wow. you just lost all credibility. I'm not on either side, but this just makes you look like an idiot.
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:01 AM   #506
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After how active you have been in this thread its pretty sad you don't know the details.


Who needs details?

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Old 02-19-2011, 07:56 AM   #507
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:08 AM   #508
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Ya, you're all right -- the short-term prospers over the long-term. I mean, who cares that the entire American education system is in shambles. Who cares that your kids don't actually learn anything in school save how to be Good Industrial Pawns; a meme that went obsolete in the 60's. Who cares that America now needs to get competitive, to start producing things, to begin innovating -- which requires brains that the current school system can't provide. Who cares about any of this?
I'm with you buddy. And you know what's going to fix it? Making sure teachers don't contribute to their pensions and health care going forward. As long as they don't pay for pensions and health care, all this other stuff is on the verge of turning around, I can feel it.
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How many of you private sector workers get a check at the end of the year for all your unused sick days? Nobody? I didn't get any for the 10 years I haven't taken a sick day.
Here. 40 hrs worth/yr minus whatever you use.

I work in manufacturing. Incentive designed to keep people from using all 40 hours just for the hell of it.
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:32 AM   #510
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I know 2 teachers in AZ who are pulling in over 150K each teaching 4th grade.
Proof or GTFO.
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