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08-12-2012, 03:22 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by zoltan
You realize motivation and self-learning capacity are different things, right? Are you seriously arguing that Joe average student is ever going to be motivated to learn calc without context? That's quaint.
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If he doesn't get soulcrushed by school, yes. Well, maybe not Calc, because there is no reason for 95% of people to learn Calc.
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08-12-2012, 03:24 PM
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old hand
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
I've taught classes where I have even less knowledge on shorter notice to far more observant students. There's no way a student would be able to tell the difference, especially if I had a text book to start with.
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So you would just be a regular average to below teacher?
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As for bad textbooks - no idea, only thing I used mine for was the problem sets, never read anything more in HS.
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Shocker...
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08-12-2012, 03:25 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by zoltan
You realize motivation and self-learning capacity are different things, right? Are you seriously arguing that Joe average student is ever going to be motivated to learn calc without context? That's quaint.
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Yes, that's exactly what I said. Exact wording even. Good work.
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08-12-2012, 03:26 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
good way to use a textbook
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08-12-2012, 03:29 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
If he doesn't get soulcrushed by school, yes. Well, maybe not Calc, because there is no reason for 95% of people to learn Calc.
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08-12-2012, 03:33 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by AlexM
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Exact wording even. Good work.
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Sooooo.....assuming you wrongly infer that motivation and self-learning are the same thing, you're also wrong about students being motivated to learn in a context free environment. Good job!
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08-12-2012, 03:37 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by Paul D
good way to use a textbook
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Don't worry, I am sure the lecturer has a PhD. She'll be fine.
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08-12-2012, 03:49 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
So you would just be a regular average to below teacher?
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LOL No.
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Shocker...
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Why would I need to read the text books in HS? Attendance was mandatory. Sweet, I can see what the teacher recited in text format.
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08-12-2012, 03:52 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
TC is totally a 1%-er in everything, financial and otherwise. Charlie Sheen even says so.
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08-12-2012, 03:54 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by zoltan
TC is totally a 1%-er in everything, financial and otherwise. Charlie Sheen even says so.
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Na, I suck at reading.
But back on track - why not have videos or interactive game type things from the best lecturers, then have a bunch of tutors spend 20 minutes or so with kids as they have problem per day. Such a more efficient way to do things.
Education is so obsolete, but hopefully the cost drops enough that we can just abandon the public schools as relics of the past soon.
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08-12-2012, 03:59 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
itt we have advocacy for
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08-12-2012, 04:00 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
Na, I suck at reading.
But back on track - why not have videos or interactive game type things from the best lecturers, then have a bunch of tutors spend 20 minutes or so with kids as they have problem per day. Such a more efficient way to do things.
Education is so obsolete, but hopefully the cost drops enough that we can just abandon the public schools as relics of the past soon.
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Agreed
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08-12-2012, 04:01 PM
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old hand
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
LOL No.
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You've given no reason at all for anybody to agree with you.
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Why would I need to read the text books in HS? Attendance was mandatory. Sweet, I can see what the teacher recited in text format.
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Because the book is written by somebody who is way, way better at math and has a deeper understanding than your teacher. You know.....the exact thing that you think makes HS teachers bad.
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08-12-2012, 04:33 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
Which is why kids should watch the best of them, and have tutors on hand to answer specific questions about problems the children have.
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08-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: This is why we should privatize our schools in the US
Who will pay for these videos? Is the expertise cheap, or will the high demand for the best talent make them prohibitively expensive?
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