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Who will be the 2016 Libertarian nominee? Who will be the 2016 Libertarian nominee?

05-09-2016 , 02:32 PM
Johnson getting some traction would be an amazing outcome. A credible third-party run would both ensure a Clinton victory and also get libertarian ideas into the mainstream as an alternative to the white nationalism that the GOP is spiralling into now.
05-10-2016 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Johnson getting some traction would be an amazing outcome. A credible third-party run would both ensure a Clinton victory and also get libertarian ideas into the mainstream as an alternative to the white nationalism that the GOP is spiralling into now.
Based on the Ron Paul run in 2008 and 2012, there seems to be a real low ceiling on crossover support from the GOP rank and file. Libertarian solutions just aren't appealing to average people.
05-10-2016 , 05:22 AM
If Gary Johnson runs a protest style campaign based on conservative purity he could probably peel 5% off Trump and get the Libertarian party federal funding. Not sure that has any long term impact though.
05-10-2016 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by maxtower
Based on the Ron Paul run in 2008 and 2012, there seems to be a real low ceiling on crossover support from the GOP rank and file. Libertarian solutions just aren't appealing to average people.
Ron Paul was a white nationalist candidate though...
05-26-2016 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak


Gary Johnson is the defending champion (aka "The Establishment"). He is a former member of the Republican Party and former governor of New Mexico. In addition to his political experience as world record holder for gubernatorial vetos and as a failed 3rd party candidate, he has also climbed Mt Everest and been known to acknowledge the existence of the TwoPlusTwo poker forum. He lives in Taos, New Mexico with his heterosexual domestic partner.
True. Johnson was on my webcast twice in 2012 and joined us at the PPA Booth during the WSOP.

Austin Petersen recognizes the poker community too. He was on my webcast this week:

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On this week's Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny webcast, Libertarian Party presidential candidate Austin Petersen joined me for a discussion on his campaign for the presidency, Sheldon Adelson's pledge of $100M+ to GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump's campaign and its implications regarding Adelson's lobbying for a shutdown of state-authorized poker websites, civil asset forfeiture, and other matters of liberty. This was followed with a poker panel chat featuring PPA MN State Director Mike Qualley and PA activist & poker coach Lucky Carmello. Please be sure to check it out!

- http://podcasts.ontiltradio.com/play...ay-24-2016.mp3
- https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...cy/id502875902 (iTunes)
05-26-2016 , 01:56 PM
Get the **** out with this spam ass bull****.
05-26-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
If Gary Johnson runs a protest style campaign based on conservative purity he could probably peel 5% off Trump and get the Libertarian party federal funding. Not sure that has any long term impact though.
He apparently said Sharia law is a major problem in the US and he'd sign a bill banning burqas if given the chance, though he retracted the latter. So definitely courting the Trump vote and lolbertarians as always.
05-27-2016 , 10:44 PM
So the Libertarian rank and file are in open revolt against Johnson's preferred running mate, former MA governor Bill Weld, calling him "Republican-lite". Score +1 for being aware enough realize that ticket is a very watered down version of whatever the heck libertarianism is supposed to be. Score -10,000 for having no clue how to field candidates that have any chance of being taken seriously by normal people.
05-28-2016 , 12:57 AM
I listened to the first part of the Joe Rogan podcast Johnson was in and it was awful. They went on and on about how it should be illegal for prison guards to lobby without the slightest mention of how that would square with the first amendment, let alone an even vaguely libertarian ideology.

He had a talking point about how successful his welfare reform executive order was at getting more people working before conceding that it was overturned by the courts too quickly to have any data to base his claim off of and then insisted it was just partisan politics that prevented him from getting any part of his super obvious program through the legislature.

Literally all the guy has to offer is that he is fiscally conservative and socially liberal and actually had a position in government. Him and the Libertarian Party should be ashamed that his second time running in a climate where getting some amount of real traction with the public might be possible that he doesn't have anything beyond fitting a lot of voters general ideology on paper.

I'm not going to waste my time with isidewith.com but I don't doubt he would very likely be my top candidate. Unfortunately he seems to personify the gap between generic candidate of xyz party/ideology and actual candidate.
05-28-2016 , 02:36 AM
I checked out isidewith and it's missing a ton of key questions. Basically it's garbage.
05-29-2016 , 10:48 AM
How Johnson did during the libertarian debate.

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He boldly and simply stated that he would have voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which drew boos, as did his heretical opinion that drivers licenses might be a legitimate state function.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/29/li...tial-debate-ga
05-29-2016 , 11:32 AM
Their debate last night was amazing and should be watched in full.

I'm voting for this guy, whose plan to replace Social Security is basically for old people to set up Kickstarters:

05-29-2016 , 11:49 AM
You might not believe me, but my boy here is funding his campaign entirely in bitcoin and silver.

05-29-2016 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RainierWolfcastle
Literally all the guy has to offer is that he is fiscally conservative and socially liberal and actually had a position in government. Him and the Libertarian Party should be ashamed that his second time running in a climate where getting some amount of real traction with the public might be possible that he doesn't have anything beyond fitting a lot of voters general ideology on paper.
Yeah, at this point I think they would be better off just running some pro pot celebrity (Woody Harreslon maybe?) He wouldn't be any more of a joke than the actual candidates and he'd get alot more attention.
05-29-2016 , 12:39 PM
mayo - still less crazy than the republican debate.
05-29-2016 , 12:43 PM
The only thing funnier than silverbugs are silverbugs who are also into cryptocurrency.
05-29-2016 , 01:36 PM
Gary johnson is officially the nominee.
05-29-2016 , 06:00 PM
Johnson/Weld is an interesting ticket. I hope they do really well, so long as it doesn't somehow put TRUMP into office. I think there's a pretty good chance they actually make it to the debates.
05-29-2016 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Johnson/Weld is an interesting ticket. I hope they do really well, so long as it doesn't somehow put TRUMP into office. I think there's a pretty good chance they actually make it to the debates.
Threshold is 15%, no? Much too high IMO.
05-29-2016 , 06:12 PM
This is a crazy year, and they're running 2 reasonably well respected and mostly not insane former GOP governors, at a time when half the GOP loathes their own candidate. Even if they fall short of the official cutoff I expect there to be a lot of pressure to include them anyway, maybe Stein too.
05-29-2016 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Johnson/Weld is an interesting ticket. I hope they do really well, so long as it doesn't somehow put TRUMP into office. I think there's a pretty good chance they actually make it to the debates.
Johnson was on NPR (they were doing a story on the libertarian nomination) and they said he was polling around 10% and needed to be at 15% to get in to debates so not ludicrous. I had low expectations for him in terms of the interview and he did about as well as I expected.
05-29-2016 , 06:34 PM
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Libertarian candidate Austin Petersen, seen widely as Johnson's stiffest competition, said we don't need the government to build roads because "in the future, we’ll have jetpacks."
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05-29-2016 , 08:58 PM
I might actually vote Libertarian.

Though, I prefer the ticket to be Weld/Johnson.
05-30-2016 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
This is a crazy year, and they're running 2 reasonably well respected and mostly not insane former GOP governors, at a time when half the GOP loathes their own candidate. Even if they fall short of the official cutoff I expect there to be a lot of pressure to include them anyway, maybe Stein too.
If he isn't hitting 15%, Johnson won't be included unless Hillary wants him to be, but depending on voter breakdowns it might be +EV for her to get him in.

Jill Stein is never sniffing the podium.
05-30-2016 , 06:21 AM
I have to say I am disappointed by Johnson. He's what Trump would call low-energy candidate. The opportunity he has is huge and he's taking advantage of it as poorly as possible.

      
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