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Old 12-07-2011, 03:04 PM   #13066
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Re: December LC Thread

I have a problem with the policy but not with the fact that they let the house burn down. They shouldn't have the policy in the first place but now that they have it people should ****ing pay the damn fee.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:04 PM   #13067
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Seems like a better option would be to save the house and charge for the services. After-the-fact fees would be enforceable via quasi-contract. It's why a doctor can charge for services even if you come in unconscious and don't agree to treatment.
I'm going to assume that they have a crapload of $75 fees coming in right about now. They probably only need to let one house burn down every few years to achieve maximum participation.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:04 PM   #13068
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Both policies seem fine to me.

How are you determining that the price is "too high?"
I said "if" it's too high, because it seems pretty damn high but I have no way of knowing for sure.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:05 PM   #13069
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The market will find a way.
Don't really wanna get bogged down in an AC debate, but I think the market way would be quasi-contract. I know it's a judicially created concept but it's born more of fairness than judicial overreaching.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:07 PM   #13070
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I have a huge problem with that. I think people in the public service like that should have a duty to actually do something.
I agree it sucks, but if you put out my neighbor's fires for free, why should I pay the fee when I know that you'll do the same for me?
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:09 PM   #13071
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I'm going to assume that they have a crapload of $75 fees coming in right about now. They probably only need to let one house burn down every few years to achieve maximum participation.
By "better option" I mean compared to sitting there coldly watching someone's house burn down. Obviously the best option is to pay the damn fee beforehand, just like the best option isn't to re-create something you saw on Tosh when you don't have insurance, but I'd rather the doctor remove the screws from the retard's head than the doctor watch the kid die.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:11 PM   #13072
 
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fwiw we already had most of these discussions in this thread. Which was quite fun.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:13 PM   #13073
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I agree it sucks, but if you put out my neighbor's fires for free, why should I pay the fee when I know that you'll do the same for me?
I have considered the incentives, but they don't outweigh the prospect of allowing homes to be burnt down with fire fighters watching. I think it's a problem with policy. I don't get why it is not covered via other city taxes.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:18 PM   #13074
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I have considered the incentives, but they don't outweigh the prospect of allowing homes to be burnt down with fire fighters watching. I think it's a problem with policy. I don't get why it is not covered via other city taxes.
They don't live in the city.

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People in the city of South Fulton have fire protection, but those in the surrounding county do not unless they pay a $75 annual fee.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:22 PM   #13075
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I have considered the incentives, but they don't outweigh the prospect of allowing homes to be burnt down with fire fighters watching. I think it's a problem with policy. I don't get why it is not covered via other city taxes.
Which is exactly why I think it's appropriate to allow the homeowner to pay the full retail price for the job if they haven't paid the fee.

Either

*pay small yearly fee
*pay a couple to a few thousand dollars to save your house/belongings (or institute timotheeeeeee's lawyer thing)
*watch house burn to ground.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:28 PM   #13076
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jfc lirva. we need a lirv containment thread.

did anyone actually read the article i linked? it's good i promise.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:36 PM   #13077
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In the fire case, note that the department in question is a city agency and the people who pay the $75 are outside the city (it's "free" for city residents).

What you're looking at is a failure of the county government.

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Old 12-07-2011, 03:41 PM   #13078
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In the fire case, note that the department in question is a city agency and the people who pay the $75 are outside the city (it's "free" for city residents).

What you're looking at is a failure of the county government.

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I was wondering where the hell the other city's fire department was or whether the county just has unprotected areas under its jurisdiction.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:41 PM   #13079
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pvn - I'm glad you're finally on board that there is significant benefit to be gained from govt doing it's job well, and that a failure of govt leaves people in a worse state than when the govt does it's job well. So I'm sure you'll agree the obvious solution is that the country govt should simply be stronger and do a better job like it does almost everywhere else in the country.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:47 PM   #13080
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Do counties have their own fire departments where you guys are? Around here the cities handle it.
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