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01-12-2012 , 12:58 AM

#16601

ErikTheDread

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Originally Posted by EricLindros

Spoiler:

Once upon a time, I was almost that big.

Not quite svelte yet, but Taft-like days are behind me.

01-12-2012 , 01:42 AM

#16602

Scary_Tiger

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Originally Posted by LKJ

Insider Advantage South Carolina Poll
Romney 23
Gingrich 21
Santorum 14
Paul 13
Huntsman 7
Perry 5

Perry losing out to Huntsman in the south now. I'd have to think we can adios him if he somehow finishes last in this primary.

Insider Advantage is continuing their proud tradition of posting Romney's worst poll numbers in every state. This poll along with Santorum's two point drop in the Gallup daily tracking poll yesterday certainly makes it look like Santorum is fading hard. Will he actually bow out and endorse Gingrich if he finishes behind Paul in South Carolina?

Perry doesn't meet CNN debate requirements - invited anyways

Quote:

“I’m agnostic and objective about this. I neither want the candidates in, nor want to exclude a candidate,” said Feist. “That’s why we published this criteria ahead of time. Other networks don’t always publish their criteria ahead of time.”

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A person must receive an average of at least 7.00 percent in at least three national polls released between January 1 and January 18 that were conducted by the following organizations: ABC, AP, Bloomberg, CBS News, New York Times, CNN, FOX, Gallup, Los Angeles Times, Marist, McClatchy, NBC, Newsweek, Pew, Quinnipiac, Reuters, USA Today and Time.

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According to CNN, Perry qualifies under the provision requiring him to tally at least 7 percent in three national polls. But only two national polls — a Gallup tracking poll published on Jan. 3, and a Reuters poll published Jan. 9 — give Perry 7 percent.

So where is the third poll?

Feist points to a CBS poll published Jan. 9. The CBS News poll gave Perry 6 percent support as was widely reported.

Quote:

“If you average 7, 7 and 6, you get 6.67. And across the board, in polling methodology, you round up to get to the next digit. And so even if you were to insist - even if someone were to insist that we use CBS’s non-traditional methodology, in which case Governor Perry gets a 6, with the other two polls in which he is listed as 7, average to 6.67, yielding a 7.”

“As far as I’m concerned, he gets in — any way you look at it, he receives an invitation.”

lol. Cause when I think of how to reach a 7.00 average in three polls, I assume we'll get to round up to the next digit. :\

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01-12-2012 , 03:04 AM

#16603

Fermion5

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That's why they showed it as 7.00, because that means no rounding. There is no room for interpretation.

But CNN wants to believe otherwise.

****ing Perry is probably going to get more time to speak than Paul too.

01-12-2012 , 03:26 AM

#16604

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I dont mind Perry being at the debate. He's probably just going to make a fool of himself anyway.

01-12-2012 , 07:10 AM

#16605

LirvA

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Adam Kokesh was, according to New Hampshire law, assaulted by one of Newt's security guys. He then goes on to see a Newt speech in a NH highschool, Newt's security recording him the whole time.

pretty sick vid imo. The ****in back and forth recording each other is kinda pokerish imo.

Another relevant vid

is the Newt walking down the stairs a decoy? Looks like he says "I'm not Newt Gingrich".

crazy ****

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01-12-2012 , 08:37 AM

#16606

Innocent Kitty

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Pretty sure if Newt hired a decoy the last thing the decoy would say is, "I'm not Newt Gingrich." Just happens to be another fat guy with white hair.

01-12-2012 , 08:44 AM

#16607

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The "according to NH law" is an epic phrase. It immediately undermines the point and i know i dont need to even watch a video of it to lol at using assault to cover where he was lightly touched by someone.

Fwiw if you didnt know the reason he was filmed by the Newt team was because he is reported as being assaulted when he is lightly touched, its like how in protests its now becoming standard practice for both sides to film each other so neither can make stuff up with heavily edited youtube videos etc.

01-12-2012 , 10:34 AM

#16608

Brons

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I haven't watched the video but... inb4 Rand-Paul-supporters-curbstomping-a-woman apologists.

01-12-2012 , 10:56 AM

#16609

LirvA

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Originally Posted by Innocent Kitty

Pretty sure if Newt hired a decoy the last thing the decoy would say is, "I'm not Newt Gingrich." Just happens to be another fat guy with white hair.

Quite a coincidence though for a guy who looks almost exactly like him to be in the same place at the same time, and coming down the stairs after security while Newt exits out the back, no?

01-12-2012 , 10:58 AM

#16610

LirvA

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

He was grabbed as I understand it, but you can't see that on film. Kokesh is filming as the guy comes up and grabs him, and you can see the camera motion, but not the grabbing.

01-12-2012 , 12:53 PM

#16611

Omar Comin

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Originally Posted by LirvA

Annoying douchebags.

01-12-2012 , 01:06 PM

#16612

Jonaspublius

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Christie is facing a difficult re-election in 2014 from what ive read (though its so far out i doubt its accuracy ldo). If he loses re-election he wont win in 2016 imo. If he wins that re-election and if he wants it then he is going to be a favourite for sure.

Part of wanting it means he should get a trainer and lose like 100lb or more (he has to be around 400lb which is never electable imo) to bring his weight down to just "obese" from "really obese", ideally hitting "overweight" if he drops to a low 200.

He would need anger management as well. He tends to get in screaming matches with ransoms and that goes down badly with voters.

Even if he wins, he might pass if the opponent is Hillary. I doubt anyone could beat her if she wants it.

01-12-2012 , 01:10 PM

#16613

Jonaspublius

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Which anchor stimulated you the most?

01-12-2012 , 01:17 PM

#16614

rjoefish

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lol the guy that comes down the stairs is so obviously not Gingrich, he'd only be a good decoy at like 100 yards

01-12-2012 , 01:32 PM

#16615

joeyDizzle

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No other big name Republicans ran this time because Romeny was next in line, he dropped out and let Mccain coast, he has the support of the elite, you do the math.

01-12-2012 , 01:42 PM

#16616

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Originally Posted by Jonaspublius

Provided he isnt straight up shouting at people i think passion can be played as a positive trait easily. From what ive seen of him on youtube the problem isnt him getting into it with people but the way he packages what he is saying within the exchanges. IE its not as simple as "you are straight up wrong", but a "you are straight up wrong and are too stupid to realise it" kinda thing.

But yeah, if Hilldog doesnt show her age (she will be 68 and just 3 years younger than McCain who a lot said was too old) and if the second Obama term isnt a disaster (or, shock, is seen as good) or if the Republicans win both houses in Congress and grind the government to a halt she will be uber strong going into 2016.

01-12-2012 , 02:31 PM

#16617

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonaspublius

Which anchor stimulated you the most?

Bayes theorum. I like my statistics mainlined. Not watered down by some talking head.

01-12-2012 , 02:50 PM

#16618

snagglepuss

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suzzer and friends,

when you watch something like this, does part of your brain go 'hey, maybe we should consider listening to this guy?', even just a little bit?

01-12-2012 , 02:54 PM

#16619

bgomez89

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racist newsletters tho

01-12-2012 , 02:55 PM

#16620

dmk

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Originally Posted by bgomez89

racist newsletters tho

plus he's old

and unelectable

01-12-2012 , 03:10 PM

#16621

Max Raker

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Originally Posted by spino1i

I dont mind Perry being at the debate. He's probably just going to make a fool of himself anyway.

Not having Perry would be a disaster for the networks. All the best moments (Opps, 10K bet, hand on shoulder etc) have involved Perry.

01-12-2012 , 03:26 PM

#16622

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by snagglepuss

suzzer and friends,

when you watch something like this, does part of your brain go 'hey, maybe we should consider listening to this guy?', even just a little bit?

Yeah, suzzer and friends, check this out:
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-02-15/ro...e-crisis-1988/

This prophetic genius overcame his lack of formal education and his creationist level IQ to make these statements in 1988:

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Previous inflation always leads to a correction of a recession or depression, but if you compare what happened in the 1920s, very similar to what’s happening here in the 1980s. And you just think about how many times you’ve read in the last 6 or 8 years that the government’s told us there’s nothing to worry about, there’s no inflation.

Well there’s been a greater expansion of money now than there was in the 20s. Of course there was a greater speculation in the stock market and a bigger stock market crash. So I anticipate, and many Austrian free market economists anticipate, that the recession that’s coming will not be a recession at all but it will a depression and it will probably be bigger than the one we had in the 1930s...
I think it’s going to, there’s going to be another major financial event before the end of [1988], close to the election; more likely before than afterwards. And that by [1989], next spring, it will be very clear that this country is moving rapidly into a recession.

Dude is a visionary.

01-12-2012 , 03:26 PM

#16623

[Phill]

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Originally Posted by snagglepuss

suzzer and friends,

when you watch something like this, does part of your brain go 'hey, maybe we should consider listening to this guy?', even just a little bit?

Half of what he said was wrong. The other half he is right mostly for the wrong reasons.