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Old 10-07-2011, 04:43 PM   #7336
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Re: Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee?

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For the analogy to hold, Obama would have to be seen as caving to the left-wing of his party. Is that what you think has been happening?
It wasn't an analogy though. I was saying that Obama caved to the right wing of both parties.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:45 PM   #7337
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I think it's perfectly ok to ask the potential commander in chief why he didn't volunteer to join the army.

And it would have been perfectly acceptable had Cain just answered, "because I didn't want to risk being killed."

There are at least two purposes to these types of questions. For one thing, the substance of the answer might be something a voter would care about. But even if they don't, it's revealing to see how a candidate answers questions like those.

In other words, even if a person doesn't care whether a guy volunteered to go to war - and in fact, I don't care - the same person might care about a candidate who might be evasive in answering such a question.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:46 PM   #7338
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It wasn't an analogy though. I was saying that Obama caved to the right wing of both parties.
Aha, I see, that does make more sense then.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:00 PM   #7339
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I think it's perfectly ok to ask the potential commander in chief why he didn't volunteer to join the army.

And it would have been perfectly acceptable had Cain just answered, "because I didn't want to risk being killed."

There are at least two purposes to these types of questions. For one thing, the substance of the answer might be something a voter would care about. But even if they don't, it's revealing to see how a candidate answers questions like those.

In other words, even if a person doesn't care whether a guy volunteered to go to war - and in fact, I don't care - the same person might care about a candidate who might be evasive in answering such a question.
Wynton,

You must be a very good lawyer because you are facile at arguing positions you know are patently absurd

And I'm very sure the demographic that watches MSLSD is overly concerned why people didn't volunteer for Viet Nam. Wow... just wow.

Remind me to hire you the next time I need a good lawyer.

By the way... did O'Donnell or Mathews ask Obama in 2007-8 whilst in mid leg quiver why he didn't enlist in the military at any time in his life?

I thought not...... I wonder why?
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:05 PM   #7340
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Asking that question once is fine. After he answered in a way you don't like you should give it a rest imo. It's a terrible line of questioning, an answer like "I didn't want to die" should be perfectly reasonable but for some reason it's not, and the host knows this.

I'm all in favor of hard journalism but this isn't the way to do it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:20 PM   #7341
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Asking that question once is fine. After he answered in a way you don't like you should give it a rest imo.
This. It's sort of a terrible question but not unfair to ask or anything, but to keep pushing after receiving a perfectly fine answer is lol. The whole interview is fairly awful.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:22 PM   #7342
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Re: Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee?

O'Donnell:
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Where do you think black people would be sitting on the bus today if Rosa Parks had followed your father’s advice?
Cain was 9.

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Old 10-07-2011, 05:36 PM   #7343
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This. It's sort of a terrible question but not unfair to ask or anything, but to keep pushing after receiving a perfectly fine answer is lol. The whole interview is fairly awful.
+1 or to say "I am offended on behalf of all Veterns who joined like John Kerry." That is even exceeds pushing that is making an idiotic commentary and interjecting your personal biases.

Since when did liberals have such a strong opinion about joining the armed services? When does working for the DoD as a civilian not be considered helping with the war effort?
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #7344
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Since when did liberals have such a strong opinion about joining the armed services?
I think some liberals also haven't gotten over the whole Kerry swift boating thing.... In addition to Bush and his cronies actively supporting the war but at the same time getting somewhat shady deferments/non combat roles coupled with the complete disaster of Bush's wars. But yeah, it's probably best for them to let it go as it comes off as very biased and petty
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:50 PM   #7345
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Man...I dont know what to say.

The Texas pastor who introduced Gov. Rick Perry at Friday's Values Voters Summit in Washington told reporters that he does not believe that former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is a Christian, and called Romney's Mormon faith a "cult."

"Well, Rick Perry's a Christian. He's an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ," Jeffress told NBC News. "Mitt Romney's a good moral person but he's not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity. So it's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian."

"Do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person, or one who is a born again follower of our Lord Jesus Christ?" he asked.



Just... wow.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:55 PM   #7346
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Pastors gonna pastor.
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:02 PM   #7347
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"Do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person, or one who is a born again follower of our Lord Jesus Christ?" he asked.



Just... wow.
well that's pretty easy. i'll take the good, moral person every day and twice on sunday!
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:03 PM   #7348
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I don't know why you're wow-ing about that. Any evangelical person is probably going to say the same thing. Mormonism is a very cult-like btw.
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:13 PM   #7349
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Cain was 9.

lol
The civil rights line of questioning was even more absurd than Vietnam. What the heck was O'Donnell even trying to get at there? Cain is a race traitor? Cain thinks blacks are inferior? It's outrageous tbh, dude needs to get fired yesterday.
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:18 PM   #7350
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Oh right almost forgot where he asked if Cain was grateful to the federal government for allowing him to have rights. Holy ****ing ****. Like, holy **** did he really ask that?
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