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**goofyballer** · 08-31-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Funny how Goofy and I found the same article but by reading our posts you come away with completely different impressions. Please note that I cut and paste the story as written. The CBS Story contains the video, please see for yourself.

I went to the first Google result for Boa's preferred search ("obama mccain you lost") here and pasted the transcript on that page, although the transcript left off Obama's last sentence in the video ("the election's over") for some reason, so I added that. It's a little funny that you'd tell me to watch the video when I pasted a transcript of exactly what is said in the video.

seattlelou · 08-31-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

I went to the first Google result for Boa's preferred search ("obama mccain you lost") here and pasted the transcript on that page, although the transcript left off Obama's last sentence in the video ("the election's over") for some reason, so I added that. It's a little funny that you'd tell me to watch the video when I pasted a transcript of exactly what is said in the video.

Except you left off McCain's speech about being shut out of the process and the meetings being held behind closed doors. If you included that part you get a different perspective. At least CBS reporter who wrote the story and I do.

**goofyballer** · 08-31-2011, 08:01 PM

...and yet it doesn't change what Obama said:

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A visibly annoyed Mr. Obama immediately responded, saying "we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth. We were supposed to be talking about insurance."

The president said that he did not want to have Democrats address McCain's objections and get bogged down in old arguments.

"My concern is that if we do that we're essentially back on Fox News or NSMBC on the split screen just arguing back and forth," he said. "So my hope would be that we can just focus on the issues of how we get a bill done."

He's talking about partisan talking points, not saying "lol John I'm the president do what I say" like Boa said.

I mean, what do you think Obama was saying? You didn't offer your perspective, you just pasted part of the article. Do you agree with what Boa said?

[Phill] · 08-31-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

Wow, so American voters are to blame if they want to watch both and don't have TiVo. Got it.

The reason the Republicans had the debate on that day is the same reason Obama is doing his speech then. Its a slow day in terms of the congressional schedule and doesnt touch the NFL on thursday.

He could delay it by a week, but then he would hit the debate the week after

They have already postponed this exact debate, this entire event sums up just how Republicans care about their political theater and not about jobs. If they cared about jobs they might actually do theirs and accidentally make the black guy look less bad.

seattlelou · 08-31-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

...and yet it doesn't change what Obama said:

He's talking about partisan talking points, not saying "lol John I'm the president do what I say" like Boa said.

I mean, what do you think Obama was saying? You didn't offer your perspective, you just pasted part of the article. Do you agree with what Boa said?

No, I don't agree with Boa's statement that Obama was telling McCain "to the victor goes the spoils." Point taken.

The 13th 4postle · 08-31-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

The reason the Republicans had the debate on that day is the same reason Obama is doing his speech then. Its a slow day in terms of the congressional schedule and doesnt touch the NFL on thursday.

He could delay it by a week, but then he would hit the debate the week after

They have already postponed this exact debate, this entire event sums up just how Republicans care about their political theater and not about jobs. If they cared about jobs they might actually do theirs and accidentally make the black guy look less bad.

What? How so? Obama started this by publicly announcing it and not telling Republicans. Then he had Carney, his press secretary state that it was just a "coincidence" and that it had nothing to do with it. Everyone knows that wasn't true as soon as he said it.

The 13th 4postle · 08-31-2011, 08:31 PM

Senate jam: DeMint also vows to block Obama speech

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Sen. Jim DeMint vowed Wednesday to try to block President Barack Obama from addressing a joint session of Congress on the same day as a Republican presidential debate next week.

Obama could learn something from the GOP, DeMint reasoned, in adding his voice — and his vote — to a growing chorus of Republican objections.

“The president should pick another night. I’m planning to watch the Republican primary debate … and the president should watch it, too,”

The iconic South Carolina conservative said. “If he has a jobs proposal, put it in writing, give us a cost estimate, and send it over. I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter. If he insists on playing politics by picking the night of the GOP debate, I will object to the session.”

The 13th 4postle · 08-31-2011, 08:33 PM

DeMint could never pull off a stunt like this had Obama not started this whole boondoggle. Blowback.

Max Raker · 08-31-2011, 08:34 PM

1. Schedule address at the same time as the debate
2. ??????
3. Profit

seattlelou · 08-31-2011, 08:34 PM

And holy **** [Phil] it is remarkably offensive for you to refer to the President of the United States as "the black guy" and painting his critics as racist.

BigPoppa · 08-31-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Its a dick move to play political games when the country faces serious challenges.

You mean like holding up even routine Presidential appointments in order to score political points?

Boa Hancock · 08-31-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

And holy **** [Phil] it is remarkably offensive for you to refer to the President of the United States as "the black guy" and painting his critics as racist.

Get used to it. I don't mean here on 2+2, but rather in the MSM, where race will be one of the primary campaign tactics used by Democrats and media in the 2012 election.

domer2 · 08-31-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPoppa

You mean like holding up even routine Presidential appointments in order to score political points?

are you talking about the republicans or the democrats or every single congress ever?

**goofyballer** · 08-31-2011, 09:02 PM

Boa, no thoughts on that quote you provided being a completely made up mischaracterization of what Obama said?

Boa Hancock · 08-31-2011, 09:20 PM

goofy, you're just being a nit over every word. The underlying point was Obama has not been the slightest bit bipartisan since entering the WH, and still shows no inclination to be so now.