Who Will Be the 2012 Republican Presidential Nominee? - Page 305 - Politics and Economics

I've been predicting a Perry "comeback" for a while. That doesn't mean I think he'll win. But I do think he's the logical landing place for the Cain supporters, once they notice that he doesn't have a chance.

Perry's quick fall is kind of a blessing. Many people may reconsider simply out of a sense that they rejected him too hastily.

10-12-2011 , 09:15 PM

#7602

steelhouse

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How did Cain go from being just a CEO, to being invited to the 1st debates? Will he release the calculations he made for his 9-9-9 plan?

Did his Godfathers Pizza receive any loans from a federal reserve member bank?

10-12-2011 , 09:29 PM

#7603

Omar Comin

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don't diss pizza

10-12-2011 , 09:38 PM

#7604

Alex Jones

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Cain is taking the spot light off people like Ron Paul. Cain seriously makes me sick, but id easily vote for him if i only had to pay 9% on poker winnings, when poker is back.

10-12-2011 , 09:44 PM

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m_reed05

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How long will it take for the 9% income tax to get morphed back into our current income tax? And then we just have our current income tax + 9% sales tax.

10-12-2011 , 09:51 PM

#7606

suzzer99

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But corporations will keep their 9%. And fox will make people happy to let them keep everything.

10-12-2011 , 09:52 PM

#7607

monkeylump

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Is Jared from Subway a conservative? Maybe he could run.

10-12-2011 , 09:59 PM

#7608

Tyler

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The 999 plan is just a stepping stone for a national sales tax:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herman Cain

Phase 2 – The Fair Tax

Amidst a backdrop of the economic boom created by the Phase 1 Enhanced Plan, I will begin the process of educating the American people on the benefits of continuing the next step to the Fair Tax.
The Fair Tax would ultimately replace individual and corporate income taxes.
It would make it possible to end the IRS as we know it.
The Fair Tax makes our exported goods and services the most competitively internationally than any other tax system.

so 999 ----> 00?

10-12-2011 , 11:01 PM

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Fermion5

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The 999 plan will never happen. Cain's tax policy is as fictitious as Obama's foreign policy was during his campaign.

10-12-2011 , 11:01 PM

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m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

There's a ton of interesting **** if you look deeper into that poll. E.g.:

Q18 Do you think that Herman Cain is too liberal, too conservative, or about right?
Too liberal .................................................. ..... 6%
Too conservative...................................... ....... 8%
About right .................................................. .... 71%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 15%

Q17 Do you think that Rick Perry is too liberal, too conservative, or about right?
Too liberal .................................................. ..... 17%
Too conservative...................................... ....... 14%
About right .................................................. .... 53%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 17%

Q16 Do you think that Mitt Romney is too liberal, too
conservative, or about right?
Too liberal .................................................. ..... 31%
Too conservative...................................... ....... 5%
About right .................................................. .... 51%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 13%

Also:

Q20 If the Republican race for President came down to Mitt Romney and Hermain Cain, who would you vote for?
Mitt Romney............................................ ........ 36%
Herman Cain.............................................. ..... 48%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 16%

JFC really people?

Q23 Do you think Barack Obama was born in the
United States?
Yes............................................... ................... 39%
No .................................................. ................. 39%
Not sure .................................................. ........ 22%

10-12-2011 , 11:03 PM

#7611

AtThe Aquarium

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

The 999 plan will never happen. Cain's tax policy is as fictitious as Obama's foreign policy was during his campaign.

If the American people want it, it will happen.

10-12-2011 , 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanGuy

I just realized how funny it is, that all those ACists and libertarians are whining about how badly a private company treated Gary Johnson.

Today's koan: If libertarianism gets shafted in a privatized, deregulated debate, does that prove or disprove the validity of libertarianism?

10-12-2011 , 11:40 PM

#7613

suzzer99

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Head hurt!

10-12-2011 , 11:48 PM

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Max Raker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

The 999 plan will never happen. Cain's tax policy is as fictitious as Obama's foreign policy was during his campaign.

Obama's foreign policy is very similar to what he said he was going to do during the campaign.

10-12-2011 , 11:53 PM

#7615

Bdidd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Welcome to the current day republican party!

10-13-2011 , 12:42 AM

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Alex Jones

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Ok ive been thinking and Cain is not a bad idea to take on Obama. Cain's 9 9 9 tax will sound appealing to alot of people. I think if enough people are pissed off about the economy and high taxes, we can get the 9 9 9 plan going. Increasing taxes on people in the top 1% who make 380k a year from 35% to higher is just plain dumb, so ive heard is Obamas plan. Cain will be a puppet but lowering taxes, would cause a big dip in government spending. I think enough Republicans and others would vote him in over Obama. This would make society worse off for maybe a 20 year span if it continued. But if would build for a brighter future.

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10-13-2011 , 12:47 AM

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ErikTheDread

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New game: guess who Alex is a gimmick account for!

10-13-2011 , 12:51 AM

#7618

Fermion5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Jones

Cain will be a puppet but lowering taxes, would cause a big dip in government spending.

lol...

puppets don't lower taxes.

10-13-2011 , 12:52 AM

#7619

vixticator

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No idea tbh

10-13-2011 , 01:01 AM

#7620

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

New game: guess who Alex is a gimmick account for!

You actually wouldn't guess.

10-13-2011 , 01:06 AM

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m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Jones

Ok ive been thinking and Cain is not a bad idea to take on Obama. Cain's 9 9 9 tax will sound appealing to alot of people. I think if enough people are pissed off about the economy and high taxes, we can get the 9 9 9 plan going. Increasing taxes on people in the top 1% who make 380k a year from 35% to higher is just plain dumb, so ive heard is Obamas plan. Cain will be a puppet but lowering taxes, would cause a big dip in government spending. I think enough Republicans and others would vote him in over Obama. This would make society worse off for maybe a 20 year span if it continued. But if would build for a brighter future.

I don't think things work how you think they do. Everyone just pays lip service to the 'cut spending' theme. When pressed they can never actually tell you where these massive cuts are going to come from. Hence why we are $14 trillion in debt. They will just continue borrowing more. Ron Paul is the only one that takes spending cuts seriously.

I'm still waiting for Cain to release his calculations and 'analysis' used, because it seems everyone else who is running the numbers on 999 is coming to different conclusions regarding: 1)The fact that it will be revenue neutral 2)The way it affects the tax burden of different income levels.

So far in rebuttal to these arguments he has only offered, 'The problem with your analysis is that it's wrong.' Helpful.