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FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:34 PM

But here;s the really impoirtant thing. Advertising don;t change peoples minds. It just makes you aware of new alternatives you didn't know about.

drugsarebad · 08-07-2011, 01:37 PM

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Right. Here we have the government saying this group cannot protest about abortion. Protest is an important form of political expression. Of course, the obvious counter argument is "well you can protest somewhere else". Much like the so called 'free speech zones' put in place by Dubya and his staff. You can go protest in a cave somewhere that no one will see you. There you go, free speech!

Please go read the Hill v. Colorado ruling. The laws in Colorado didn't stop the protests from being seen or heard by anybody walking into a clinic. They did, however, stop protestors from stopping or holding up people from walking freely into an abortion clinic to have a procedure done - which is, not coincidentally, another constitutionally allowed freedom.

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:38 PM

So protesters can protest within 300 m of an abortion clinic? Then why was someone in this thread claiming they weren't allowed to? Wasn't that you?

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:39 PM

I have no desire to read any case law, thank you very much. Lawyers and judges are all hypocritical scum.

**MrWookie** · 08-07-2011, 01:41 PM

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I have no desire to read any case law, thank you very much. Lawyers and judges are all hypocritical scum.

And here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. Well, gentlemen.

drugsarebad · 08-07-2011, 01:41 PM

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So protesters can protest within 300 m of an abortion clinic? Then why was someone in this thread claiming they weren't allowed to? Wasn't that you?

I believe the figure in the Hill ruling was 100 feet. Which allows protestors to express themselves without standing in the way of anybody else's freedoms.

The reason that law is constitutional, is because the same 100 ft standard applies to, let's say, a pro-choice rally in the same location. The restriction isn't based on the content of the protest.

miajag · 08-07-2011, 01:42 PM

Relevant as always

Brons · 08-07-2011, 01:43 PM

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But here;s the really impoirtant thing. Advertising don;t change peoples minds. It just makes you aware of new alternatives you didn't know about.

Citation needed

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:43 PM

Of course the restriction is based on content. The content is political, you can't do it. Ergo, forbiding based on content.

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:44 PM

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Citation needed

"It is a widespread fallacy that skillful advertising can talk the consumers into buying everything that the advertiser wants them to buy. The consumer is, according to this legend, simply defenseless against high-pressure advertising. If this were true, success or failure in business would depend on the mode of advertising only."

Human Action, p 317, p. 321

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:45 PM

The tricks and artifices of advertising are available to the seller of the better product no less than to the seller of the poorer product. But only the former enjoys the advantage derived from the better quality of his product.

Human Action p. 318; p. 321

**MrWookie** · 08-07-2011, 01:45 PM

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Citation needed

Yeah, I mean, why does Bud Light pay for multiple Super Bowl ads year in and year out? Surely a single ad would be enough to generate awareness. Everything would be a waste, at least in FPP's oversimplified view of the world.

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:45 PM

now how long should i let these chicken thighs bake at 400 degrees?

FallsviewPokerPro · 08-07-2011, 01:45 PM

maybe some people are in the can during the first one

**MrWookie** · 08-07-2011, 01:46 PM

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maybe some people are in the can during the first one

And the second, and the third, and the fourth, but not for the fifth?